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Lyr Req: Texts to Webb (Stand up/Morning Light)

16 Jan 07 - 04:19 PM (#1938663)
Subject: Lyr Add/Req: There is a star that shineth
From: Haruo

A few days ago I received the following email, sparked by "Leland's Webb Site", an old hymn page in La Lilandejo:
I came across Leland's Webb site as a result of a search for "stand up" and "morning light is breaking".

The reason for the search was an attempt to locate the words of a song that was sung at a grade school Christmas play in the early 1950's. From information on this site, it would appear that the melody used for "Stand up, Stand up for Jesus" and "The Morning Light is Breaking" has been used and reused.

I attended school in a one-room school house, out on the prairie, beginning in 1947. The teacher was quite in to producing good Christmas shows, with whatever can be done with eighteen students in grades one through eight. She died last year, which caused all sorts of memmories to come to the fore again - items that had not been recollected for over fifty years.

One of these memories was a song that was sung for one of the annual Christmas plays. I could remember two stanzas, but I do not remember if there were more. So, a search of the internet was made. This located the cyberhymnal site, as well as the webb site. The specific words using the Webb melody, however, was not present (or my memory has lost enough of the words and phrases so that the words are not locatable).

Anyway, regarding the webb site, there is at least one more adaption of Webb's melody, to a Christmas song of at least two verses (that I can remember).
There is a star that shineth, oer mountain, plain, and sea
It shines with silent message, it shines on you and me
With golden light of Christmas, it shineth from afar
It shines with silent message, the wondrous Christmas star

To Bethlehem in Judah, the star with brilliant rays
Led wisemen to the manger, where the baby Jesus lays
With golden light of Christmas, it shineth from afar
It shines with silent message, the wondrous Christmas star


I don't know if an unsollicitated piece of information is of any interest to you, but here it is.

Regards,

[Russell Haugen]
In supersearching and powersearching and whatnot I was unable to locate a Mudcat thread dealing with this tune, which has accreted quite a few texts, sacred and parodic alike, since its first appearance in the mid-1800s. So I thought I would start a thread with precisely that in view, beginning with Mr. Haugen's query.

Thus is the tune that is commonly called "Stand Up for Jesus", but was first associated with the missions hymn "The Morning Light Is Breaking", by Samuel Francis Smith, better known in the USA as the author of "My country, 'tis of thee" aka "America". The tune is usually called, in my experience, "Morning Light" (after its first text's incipit) in British hymnals and "Webb" (after its composer, George James Webb) in American hymnals.

If anyone is familiar with the Christmas text Mr. Haugen quoted and can add stanzas or correct details (I have a feeling there may be two missing lines in the stanzas he quoted; the repetition of the last two doesn't "feel right" somehow) please supply what you can. And feel free to add additional texts to this thread. I am sure I have previously posted some Webb texts here (e.g. my "Fremont Hymn" and the MCC ballad "Our God Is Like an Eagle"), so I will look for them and link, or repost if necessary.

Haruo


16 Jan 07 - 04:37 PM (#1938692)
Subject: Links to Webb texts in DT & Cyber Hymnal
From: Haruo

Three stanzas of Stand up, Stand up for Jesus are in the DT, with a simple MIDI. The DT also has the Wobblies' version, Stand up! Ye WorkersThe Cyber Hymnal gives six stanzas, with a more elaborate MIDI and NWC score. The Cyber Hymnal also has The Morning Light Is Breaking, as well as four other hymn texts, In Lands Across the Sea, O Thou, Whose Hand Hath Brought Us, Our Country's Voice Is Pleading, and Thy Might Sets Fast the Mountains. It's a regular-meter hymn tune (7.6.7.6.D), so obviously there are hundreds of other hymns that could be sung to it.

Haruo


17 Jan 07 - 04:21 PM (#1939807)
Subject: Lyr Add: THE FREMONT HYMN
From: Haruo

I've linked to this before but am surprised to see that I apparently never posted the lyrics here. It's my signature piece in Seattle AA circles. [Warning: contains naughty language.]
The Fremont Hymn
Tune: WEBB (MIDI)

  1. Stand up, stand up for Fremont, ye sickest of the sick!
    Defend in tones vehement its honor and be quick
    To say it's kept you sober and taught you all you kno-ow:
    Exaggerate thrice over. The Big Book tells us so!
  2. Stand up for all four Fremonts, Jurassic, old and new!
    We're mostly staying sober just like they used to do
    Between and during meetings, those pebbles, stones and bri-icks
    Composing our foundation, and proud to still be sick!
  3. Stand up, stand up for Fremont, the ER of AA,
    And Western State's north dayroom, where loons and winos play
    As dope fiends wax poetic above the background ro-oar,
    And we stay clean and sob'r, as we've never done before.
  4. Stand up for Ralph and hootowls, for sponsors, Steps and God*!
                        * (God: as we more or less fondly referred to the late Jerry Steinmann)
    We're following the path our old-timers' feet have trod.
    The good news--a solution. The bad news--this is it!
    If your ass falls off, keep comin'; we'll teach you how to sit!
  5. Stand up, stand up for Fremont, for Joseph and Chuck A,
    For fellowship and cusswords day after sober day.
    For growth and change and quiet another group may do,
    But for life, we go to Fremont--the Big Book tells us to!
  6. Stand up for smoke, the First Step, and endless drunkalogue,
    For coffee, sideline bullshit, and Boxcar's sober dog.
    We pour the tough love, lave it o'er new girls and new boy-oys
    And Harleys are our fav'rite till-death-part sober toys.
  7. Stand up, stand up for Fremont! Don't drink, you won't get drunk!
    Outsit the fuckin' assholes! Don't think, you won't get thunk!
    From Greenlake unto Hilltop our reputation's lo-ow--
    Yet Fremont's where they got it--the Big Book tells us so!

    © 1996-2000 Leland R.