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23 Mar 99 - 12:38 PM (#65342) Subject: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Ushie I've been trying to track down an Irish (?) folk tune called "Duna" (sp?). I heard it in a concert a long time ago and would like to know if any of you all are familiar with it. (It isn't in the Mudcat DB under that spelling.) I remember most of one verse: When I was a young man before my beard was grey, Thoughts of ----- and sailing ships They took my heart away. But I'm weary of the sea now, I'm weary of the foam, And the little stars of Duna Call me home, The little stars of Duna call me home. Thanks. |
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23 Mar 99 - 12:54 PM (#65351) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Don Meixner Gordon Bok sings a grand version of this song. I think its on a album I have of his he recorded on Verve Records ages ago. It may be on a Folk Legacy album too. Sandy would know that best of all of us. I don't know where it came from but for a hunch I'd say it was Scottish or Maritime Canadian. But thats ony a guess. Don |
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23 Mar 99 - 02:10 PM (#65371) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Sandy Paton Yes, Don, it's on his first Folk-Legacy recording, now available as a cassette: A Tune for November (C-40). I'll have to check the booklet to see what he says about it, but this I do remember: Gordon is convinced that he wrote the melody he sings, but it is surprisingly close to the melody my father sang for the song, which Dad had learned in a college glee club arrangement back in about 1920. I think Gordon had the song from his family, and may have reconstructed the melody from what he remembered. Some of our real Mudcat scholars can probably chase down the original poet and composer. If Ushie wants to learn the song, the cassette is listed on our web site. Click here: Folk-Legacy Sandy (Folk-Legacy's resident Folk Fogey) |
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23 Mar 99 - 05:16 PM (#65412) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: isn't this the famous song "yeller girls" where the chorus goes :- Duna let me go me boys Duna let me go Away me yeller girls Duna let me go :-) |
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23 Mar 99 - 07:23 PM (#65444) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Sandy Paton Gee, Anonymous, when Bert Lloyd sang that one, I was sure he was saying "doodle let me go!" Have I been wrong for more than forty years? Nope, different song than the one Ushie's looking for. Later tonight, I could post the text that Gordon sings, if you want it, Ushie. Sandy |
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23 Mar 99 - 09:40 PM (#65482) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Barbara Well, I've sung 'Duna' as in "When I was a younger man..." and I've sung "Hurrah, me yaller gals..." and I always thought the chorus was "Do nah let me go, me gals.." As in "Do not" though I have heard others sing "doodle". Blessings, Barbara |
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23 Mar 99 - 10:37 PM (#65490) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Don Meixner I'm in Sandy's camp on this one. "I wish I was in Lancashire or up in Callio(sp?)" "Away me Yaller Girls, Doodle Let me go" "Doodle let me go, me Gal" Doodle let me Go, 'Way me Yaller Girl" Doodle let me go" Paddie Bell sings this on one of the Corrie Folk Trio albums released on Electra in the mid 60's. Don |
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24 Mar 99 - 12:38 AM (#65524) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Barry Finn Hugill reports it both as "Doodle let me go" & Do let me go". I find it pretty close to "Dou Dou" a West Indian term for a women (though I've always sung it as doodle), Yella Gal, could there be a corruption here. Barry |
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24 Mar 99 - 08:07 AM (#65597) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Don Meixner Very often in American folk music a Yella Gal, Yaller Girl, Yalloo or Yellow girl referes to a woman of mixed parentage. Specifically a Mulatto. "The Yellow Rose of Texas" mentions a woman who according to some historians was a Mulatto woman who kept Santa Anna busy in the sack while Sam Houston surrounded him at San Jacinto. Further mentions of Yella Girls are found in Sea Chantys "Why do them Yella girls Love Me so? Heave away Santy Anno, Because I won't tell them all I know, Along the plains of Mexico," I like the corruption of Dou Dou into Doodle, I certainly makes sense from the anglification (neat word Huh?) stand point. Don |
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24 Mar 99 - 12:34 PM (#65629) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Barry Finn "As I roved out one morning, Away you roller bowler, I met a Dou Dou fair, Away you roller bowler, Hey rig a jig a jig a ha ha , Good morning ladies all"
From the shanty Roller Bowler (or Good Morning Ladies All). Barry |
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24 Mar 99 - 07:35 PM (#65704) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Ushie Thanks, all, for the info. Sandy, if you wouldn't mind posting the lyrics per G.B. I'd love to see them. The tune I heard is pretty firm in my head, but I'm curious to hear what he has done with it. I am certain the song predates him. Of course, he may have worked with the traditional melody to make it his own. I originally heard it as an encore in a baritone recital at Carnegie Hall, which also leads me to believe it's an older tune, since, generally speaking, only the older folk/Gospel material is used in "classical" repertory. Ushie
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24 Mar 99 - 09:55 PM (#65742) Subject: Lyr Add: Duna^^ From: Sandy Paton Here's the way Gordon Bok sang "Duna" on his first Folk-Legacy recording:
DUNA
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25 Mar 99 - 07:30 PM (#65976) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Ushie Thanks, Sandy. |
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19 May 00 - 05:00 AM (#230392) Subject: Duna From: kendall I've been singing a song titled DUNA for 40 years, but, dont know where DUNA is.. do you? Goes like this:
Fein was I for journeying all the seas in ships But I'm weary of the sea winds, weary of the foam And the little stars of DUNA call me home.
When I was a young man before my beard was gray |
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19 May 00 - 07:27 AM (#230415) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Stewie Don't know where Duna is, but the song began life as a poem by John Masefield, one-time poet laureate of England. A Masefield collection or biography may give some clues. Gordon Bok recorded it on 'Tune for November'. --Stewie. |
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19 May 00 - 07:55 AM (#230425) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: kendall Gordon taught it to me, and, I have a collection of Masefields poetry. |
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19 May 00 - 08:21 AM (#230436) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Wolfgang wild guess: Duna is Hungarian for Danube. Wolfgang |
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19 May 00 - 01:10 PM (#230595) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Sandy Paton Kendall: my father sang a setting of "Duna" that he probably learned in one of the glee clubs he sang with during his long lifetime. It's remarkably like the tune Gordon uses for the poem, although Gordon was convinced (I think) that he wrote the tune he sings. This may relate to the current thread on John Kirkpatrick's songmaking. Check it out. Sandy |
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19 May 00 - 01:34 PM (#230615) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: GUEST,Mrr Hey, Wolfgang, that was my wild guess too! |
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19 May 00 - 08:08 PM (#230804) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Stewie Kendall, there's a John Masefield Society. Its contact address is uczzpwe@ucl.ac.uk Someone there might have the answer to your query. --Stewie. |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:54 AM (#1289927) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,Hamilton Camp In 1960 I heard it on a 78 record by a 20s singer with a German name. and that's the song. And he sang "all to ships and sailorin' I gave my heart away. It's haunted me for years. Thanks Sandy for the lyric. I've never forgotton the song or the changes and now I have the words. Hamilton |
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06 Oct 04 - 01:24 PM (#1290397) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: kendall I used this melody for my song "The Last Whale Hunt". First heard Gordon sing Duna back about 1959 and always loved that melody. |
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07 Oct 04 - 12:22 PM (#1291378) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,julia I have an old copy of the sheet music circa early 1900's- must have been popular then. i'll check it to compare lyrics etc Julia |
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07 Oct 04 - 12:28 PM (#1291384) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,MMario Julia - any chance you can scan and e-mail the music? to lpola@edutech.org if you can. would be greatly appreciated. |
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07 Oct 04 - 12:47 PM (#1291401) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,MMario can't find any connections between 'Duna' and Masefield - all my searches keep coming up with a song by Josephine McGill from 1914 - |
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07 Oct 04 - 12:50 PM (#1291404) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,MMario This site:U Penn Digital Library credits the lyrics to Marjorie Lowrey Christie Pickthall |
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07 Oct 04 - 01:40 PM (#1291451) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,Art Thieme Ham Camp---Good to see you on line--and showin' up here---of all places. Fond memories of the Gate. All the best, Art |
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07 Oct 04 - 03:23 PM (#1291520) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: DonMeixner Wow, another legend chimes in. I've been a Hamilton Camp fan since I heard Paths Of Victory in High School. I think I wore out the grooves on Camp and Gibson Live twice and I still perform their version of St. Clair's Defeat. Now the big question, Is that Hamilton Camp I see as "Page" in The Black Shield of Falworth along with Clint Eastwood? Don Meixner I have a recording of Buddy Bohn(?) doing Duna as well but it is wildly different from Bok's version. |
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07 Oct 04 - 04:17 PM (#1291558) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Has anyone found the McGill (music)-Pickthall (lyrics) sheet music? Doesn't seem to be in Levy, American Memory, Duke or Colorado. |
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07 Oct 04 - 04:20 PM (#1291561) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,MMario noplace accessible, Q. I'm hoping that's what Julia's copy is and that she can scan it. |
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07 Oct 04 - 09:54 PM (#1291849) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,julia I'll be happy ot scan and send what I have, but I'll be away friday thru sunday and don't have time to unearth it just now. I Promise I'll send sunday night (unless i get lucky and find it soon) cheers Julia |
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08 Oct 04 - 08:32 AM (#1292222) Subject: RE: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,MMario Thank you! |
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11 Oct 04 - 06:00 AM (#1294169) Subject: Lyr Add: DUNA (Marjorie Pickthall) From: Jim Dixon Copied from http://digital.library.upenn.edu/women/pickthall/pinions/pm-duna.html Note "sailormen" instead of "islands" and that the second halves of the verses were switched in the Gordon Bok version above. DUNA Marjorie Pickthall, 1913. When I was a little lad With folly on my lips, Fain was I for journeying All the seas in ships. But now across the southern swell, Every dawn I hear The little streams of Duna Running clear. When I was a young man, Before my beard was gray, All to ships and sailormen I gave my heart away. But I'm weary of the sea-wind, I'm weary of the foam, And the little stars of Duna Call me home. |
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15 Oct 04 - 02:28 PM (#1298061) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,Ruth I just discovered this song from a recording of my dad singing it in 1964. I assume he got it from his dad, who loved to sing Irish songs. I was struck by the beauty of the melody and came here to see if I could find out more about it. The only words I'm not sure about are "cormer's swell" -- that's what it sounds like, but even my biggest, baddest dictionary doesn't have the word "cormer" in it. I must have misheard. Anyway, I thought I'd post these lyrics because they're slightly different from the ones above. When I was a wee lad with blarney on my lips I was fain for journeying about the seas in ships But now across the cormer's swell every sound I hear Is a little stream of Duna, running clear When I was a wee lad before my beard was grey For good ships and sailing men I gave my heart away Now I'm weary of the sea wind, I'm weary of the foam And the little streams of Duna call me home. |
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15 Oct 04 - 03:17 PM (#1298083) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,ClaireBear Ruth, how about "comber" ("a long, curling wave," per Webster's desk dictionary) for "cormer"? |
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15 Oct 04 - 10:03 PM (#1298334) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,Ruth ClaireBear, you are absolutely right. I called up my dad and asked him what that word was, and he said "comber." I should have thought of that anyway, but I was so sure I heard an "r"! Must've been his youthful Connecticut accent. |
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05 Nov 04 - 05:49 PM (#1318269) Subject: RE: Hamilton Camp From: GUEST Don, I wish I could answer your question, but I am confused. The only Black Shield of Falworth in the IMDB database is from 1954; Hamilton was in it playing Roger Ingoldsby, according to the IMDB credits and there is no mentioned of Clint Eastwood. Are you perhaps thinking of a different movie? FYI: I maintain a web site for Hamilton at hamiltoncamp.com. |
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03 Jan 05 - 03:29 PM (#1370253) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,Julia Well, better late than never- got distracted by the "holi-daze" Here are the details- circa 1916 Looks like Josephine set a poem by Marjorie Sung by John McCormack- Francis Rogers Cantor Josef Rosenblatt and Reinald Werrenrath DUNA Song The words by Marjorie Pickthall The Music by Josephine McGill Boosey & Co New York London Toronto This song may be sung in public without fee or license The public performance of any parodied version, however, is strongly prohibited Copyright MCMXIV Boosey & Co ---------------------- Inside the front cover is "Another Equally Charming Song" When as a Lad words by Isabel E. McKay When as a lad at break of day I watched the fishers sail away My thoughts like flocking birds would follow Acros the curving skies blue hollow And on, and on, into the very heart of dawn ------------------- DUNA When I was a little lad With folly on my lips, Fain was I for journeying All the seas in ships. But now across the southern swell, Every dawn I hear The little streams of Duna Running clear. When I was a young man, Before my beard was gray, All to ships and sailormen I gave my heart away. But I'm weary of the sea-wind, I'm weary of the foam, And the little stars of Duna Call me home. ------------------ The music follows I will be happy to make a copy of this for anyone interested- send me your snail mail castlebay@castlebay.net Cheers- Julia |
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03 Jan 05 - 03:46 PM (#1370264) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: DonMeixner WEll guest, I am wondering about my memory now. I'll have to inhabit the TV guide until I see BLack Shield again to know for sure. Thanks for looking. Don |
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03 Jan 05 - 03:54 PM (#1370274) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,Com Seangan I think it was also spelled Doonagh and Josephine McGill is correct. It is a lovely lyric. I have a delighful rendering of the song on tape from a Radio Éireann concert about 1946 and sung by Christopher Lynch. In the intro by compere Naill Boden, Josephine McGill is mentioned as the author. If "ushie" wants a copy email me at brencoff@hotmail.com Com Seangan |
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18 Jan 05 - 10:30 AM (#1381293) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: MMario Julia has mailed me a copy of this - I will be posting the tune as per the music sometime soon. |
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18 Jan 05 - 10:56 AM (#1381311) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,MMario |
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18 Jan 05 - 10:58 AM (#1381316) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,MMario X:1 T:DUNA C:Marjorie Pickthall/Josephine McGill N:submitted by Julia from sheet music Q:1/4=84 I:abc2nwc M:2/4 L:1/16 K:Eb z4z2B2|e4e3 e|d2 G2 G2 G2|A2 B2 c2 A2| (G4F2) z2|E3 E e3 c|B2 G2 G4|F3 F d2 c2| B4z2B2|e3 e e3 e|d2 G2 G2 z2|A2 B2 c2 e2| (f4e2) zf|g3 f e2 c2|B2 G2 F2 G2|(E8|e8| (3d2e2d2 B3 d|c4)z2B2|e2 c2 B2 G2| F3 E F A3|E8|z8|z4z2B2|e4e3 e|d4G2 G2| A2 B2 c2 A2|(G4F2) z2|E3 E e3 c|B2 G2 G3 G| F3 F d3 c|B4z2B B|e3 e e3 e|d4G2 G2|A2 B2 c2 e2| f2 z2e2 f2|g3 f e2 c2|B2 F zF2 G2| (E8|e8| (3d2e2d2 B3 d|c4)z2B2|e2 c2 B2 G2|F3 E F2 A2|(E4g4-)|g4z2f2|e2 c2 B2 G2|F E zF3 G|(E8|B8-|B8|c8|e8-|e4)z4 w:When I was a lit-tle lad, with fol-ly on my lips,_ Fain was I for jour-ney-ing all the seas in ships, but now a-cross the south-ern swell, Ev'-ry dawn I hear_The lit-tle steaams of du-na run-ning clear_______ the lit-tle streams of Du-na run-ning clear. When I was a young man, be-fore my beard was grey,_ All to ships and sai-lor-men I gave my heart a-way. But I'm wea-ry of the sea-wind, I'm wea-ry of the foam And the lit-tle stars of Du-na, call me home_______ the lit-tle stars of Du-na, call me home__ the lit-tle stars of Du-na, call me home_____ Click to playTo play or display ABC tunes, try concertina.net |
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18 Jan 05 - 12:22 PM (#1381387) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Brían Doonagh appears to be in County Mayo, Ireland if anyone is interested. I have always enjoyed Gordon's rendition of this song. Brían |
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18 Jan 05 - 02:30 PM (#1381505) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: GUEST,Com Seangan Correct, Brian (is it Brian ???) Doonagh is in West Mayo but no place that I ever heard of spelled Duna. The version that I have is also spelled Doonagh. I certainly am interested in Gordon's rendition. But excusing my immense ignorance, to which Gordon do you refer ? I had been not aware that McCormack sang Doonagh. |
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18 Jan 05 - 03:56 PM (#1381609) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? From: Helen Com Seangan, If you read the second posting on this thread you'll see the beginning of the discussion about Gordon Bok's version of the song. Helen |
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19 Jan 05 - 02:54 PM (#1382469) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: GUEST,Com Seangan Thannk you Helen. Appreciated. The lyric is truly haunting. And while I'm taliking aboiut Doonagh in West Mayo by the sea - the words do not somehow fit in to the Irish taditional mould. They don't have to !! Whetherit is Canadin, British or Irish it is a beautiful song. Thanks Helen and all the contributers. |
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03 Sep 05 - 01:50 PM (#1555489) Subject: Chords ADD: Duna From: chico C Em F G7 |
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17 Mar 06 - 02:46 PM (#1696358) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Surreysinger Doesn't help with where Duna might be, but the song was composed by Josephine McGill (1877 - 1919). I was only ever aware of it as a piece in the classical repertoire of the American Irish tenor Robert White in the 1970's. (I'd always assumed that the location was fictional, anyway). |
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17 Mar 06 - 02:59 PM (#1696369) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Surreysinger Just done a further trawl on Google. In fact there's a previous Mudcat thread on this at thread.cfm?threadid=9875&desc=yes The words were written by Marjorie Pickthall and set to music by Josephine McGill. |
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17 Mar 06 - 05:31 PM (#1696477) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Mick Pearce (MCP) You can find out about the author here (U.Penn): Marjorie Lowrey Christie Pickthall and the collection the poem came from (and the poem) by following the link for The Drift of Pinions. Mick |
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17 Mar 06 - 09:14 PM (#1696604) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: Stewie Seems like Gordon Bok is the one responsible for the Masefield furphy! Judging by this and the previous thread, I wasn't alone in taking his note at face value. --Stewie. |
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19 Feb 07 - 02:40 PM (#1972743) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh I've never heard a recording of this by John McCormack, tho' the leap of an octave and ?a third at the end (perhaps to a pp note) would have suited his style admirably. Father Sydney McEwan recorded it some time in the 40s, I think (and the "comber" word, I'm pretty sure, he gave as "now, across the Southern swell...") |
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28 Apr 07 - 10:00 PM (#2038391) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: GUEST,John Hayles My father would often sing this tune. |
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04 Dec 07 - 12:05 AM (#2208033) Subject: RE: Help: Duna From: GUEST,Dave Duna O McGill is archive sheet music at G Shirmer and they will not retrieve it as per my previous request. I heard it performed 25 years ago at a vocal recital and also wanted to get it but have long since lost contact with the man who sang it and had a copy. |
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25 Sep 08 - 04:51 PM (#2450230) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: GUEST,Guest, Preston Duna was recorded by baritone Reinald Werrenrath in the acoustic era for Victor Talking Machine Company, and re-recorded superbly (catalog number Victor 1280-B) by the same baritone in 1927 during the electrical era. The 1927 version is one of the most haunting vocals you will ever hear. The 78rpm record regularly comes up on eBay. If anyone knows Hamilton Camp, perhaps they might let him know. |
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26 Sep 08 - 12:11 AM (#2450557) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: GUEST,Don Meixner Sadly Hamilton Camp passed away only a short while ago. |
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06 Oct 10 - 05:09 PM (#3001288) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: GUEST,Mim Aline I'm coming a bit late to this but just found the discussion. I have the 78 record of Duna sung by Reinald Werrenrath and it has always been one of my favorites. I had it transferred to a CD but I wish I could find a copy that had been cleaned up. The poem is the original version. On the record the song is attributed to Marjorie Pickthall and Josephine McGill. The number on the record is 844-B |
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04 Apr 11 - 09:58 AM (#3128224) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: GUEST,Emer Hi, Have been seaching for the music of this song for a long time, I think it originates from County Clare in Ireland and the name of the song is "The little stream of Doonagh" If possible will you e-mail a copy of the sheet music. Thanks,Emer |
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04 Apr 11 - 10:17 AM (#3128236) Subject: RE: Req/Add: 'Duna'--Ring any bells? ^^^ From: Jack Campin Was Marjorie Pickthall any relation of Marmaduke Pickthall? http://www.masud.co.uk/ISLAM/bmh/BMM-AHM-pickthall_bio.htm |
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06 Dec 17 - 03:42 PM (#3892487) Subject: RE: Lyr Req/Add: Duna ^^^ From: GUEST,gillianswain This song is also called "The Little Hills of Duna" and is published by Boosey and Hawkes. |