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Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall

03 Mar 07 - 06:51 AM (#1984757)
Subject: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish

Hi :0)

Anyone else going to see them this Easter?

Many of you may like to follow the run-up to their 3rd sell out gig at the biggest villlage hall in the country by taking up this offer from The Western Morning News:

Western Morning News and Show of Hands


Hopefully Mudcat will allow this thread to stay up here where it belongs, despite the efforts of certain members of Mudcat to turn it into yet another chaotic thread.

Suppression does not belong on here, just as it does not belong on the BBC board either. The more that people give in to it, the more those who seek to do it think they have won.

I would also like to take this opportunity to point out that I do not and will not take over other threads with 'recipes' or anything else.
Think how outraged some of you may feel if I had done that on a Nic Jones thread for instance, or any other thread that you may have started or are enjoying.

So...I'd ask the hypocrites to stay out of this thread. This is the only post I'll put in here, so you won't be able to wind me up any further I'm afraid.

The information I've posted on the link above, is for the many people who read Mudcat, who may well be interested in following up what is going to be happening in The Western Morning News, which is the major 'local' paper for all of Devon and Cornwall.

To anyone else who is going to see Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall, I very much hope you enjoy it. I know we all will.

Thanks


Lizzie :0)


03 Mar 07 - 07:09 AM (#1984761)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Blowzabella

pmsl!!!!


03 Mar 07 - 07:47 AM (#1984781)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST, Tom Bliss

Anyone got the video of the last AH bash? Anyone notice some over-excited prat - when the guys ask if anyone's from further afield than Sweden - shouting out, err 'Alderney.' I think that idiot should be banned from this years gig.

(Actually I can't go because I shall be in, err Alderney).


03 Mar 07 - 08:05 AM (#1984793)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Folkiedave

Tom - I think you would be stepping down a dangerous route if you want to start banning idiots from Show of Hands gigs.


03 Mar 07 - 09:29 AM (#1984836)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

You've got to feel sorry for them in that respect, Dave - surely it's not a route they've chosen for themselves!

Have I mentioned lately what excellent musicians I think they are?


03 Mar 07 - 09:50 AM (#1984850)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

Dunno if you have but I have. Phil Beer is, anyway.
Pity about SoH.
Aren't the Watersons doing a RAH gig soon?
Now that's worth going to.


03 Mar 07 - 09:52 AM (#1984852)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Brummie Brian

I'm seeing Phil & Steve twice at Easter.

Ain't I the lucky one!

Got tickets for the 'Road to the Albert Hall' show in Fareham on Good Friday.

Staying at the Fareham Easter Festival on Saturday for Kate Rusby and John Tams then hopping on a train to London for the Albert Hall show on Sunday.

Should be a great weekend.


03 Mar 07 - 09:53 AM (#1984854)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Can't get there soon enough

It will be our third time of seeing SOH at RAH. This year may be the best yet. Anyone know who is on with them this time round? It only mentions 'special guests' on their site. Take no notice of detractors on here LC - SOH have risen far above petty minded comments of bitter people -


03 Mar 07 - 09:57 AM (#1984857)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

Phil Beer is indeed. And he's nice to small children.

The Waterson's RAH gig, A Mighty River of Song, is on the 12th of May. Let's hope all the family are feeling fighting fit by then! It also includes guest appearances by just about everyone the Watersons have ever met.

http://watersoncarthy.com/images/alberthall.pdf

I got my tickets a few weeks ago - really looking forward to it.


03 Mar 07 - 10:00 AM (#1984860)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

Oh look - Lizzie's talking to herself again!

*waves at Can't get there soon enough*

Hi, Lizzie!


03 Mar 07 - 10:02 AM (#1984862)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Alec

How many are going from Blackburn,Lancashire?


03 Mar 07 - 10:05 AM (#1984866)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith

"Anyone know who is on with them this time round? It only mentions 'special guests' on their site"

Tom Robinson let slip that he and Martyn Joseph would be appearing on stage, I presume for some sort of reprise of Faith, Folk & Anarchy. Seth Lakeman won't be, because he is topping the bill at Fareham Folk Festival that night.


03 Mar 07 - 10:44 AM (#1984964)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Liam

>>The Waterson's RAH gig, A Mighty River of Song, is on the 12th of May<<

A lot of seats available on that Watersons one still too. Every seating area still seems to be available on the RAH website.

I would have thought that Bush Hall would have been a better sized venue for the likely demand for the Watersons.


03 Mar 07 - 12:08 PM (#1985013)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Shortdog

Not surprised there are plenty of tickets available for Waterson Carthy at RAH. Most disappointed at a very amateurish show called Frost and Fire. The Mummers play was enough to make our beer curdle.


03 Mar 07 - 12:51 PM (#1985034)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Surreysinger

"Oh look - Lizzie's talking to herself again!

*waves at Can't get there soon enough*"
Funny you should say that Ruth! I was just thinking the same thing!!

Shortdog - have to say I'm surprised at your comment re Frost and Fire. I went with two friends who are not folkies, and they were both extremely impressed by the whole evening, and even specifically mentioned the Mummers play as being great fun and well presented. Maybe the particular evening you saw was a bit down? I went to the Farnham gig, and enjoyed myself far more than I had actually expected to - in fact I would really quite have liked to have had the chance to go a second time. The whole thing fizzed with enthusiasm and good rapport with the audience... in fact when I was handing out badges and flyers with the words on at the start there were two punters there who had seen it the day before in Basingstoke, and had been so enthused that they had to try and get tickets for the Farnham presentation.... so I wasn't alone in thinking it was good!! Sadly I can't make it to the Albert Hall gig, as I shall be elsewhere in London for the Keith Summers Festival (same weekend).


03 Mar 07 - 01:21 PM (#1985062)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

All routes lead to the King & Queen for the Keith Summers bash.
It's always the most amazing music.
Keith must be well pissed off that it's his memorial and he can't be there himself.


03 Mar 07 - 01:31 PM (#1985065)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Ralphie

Have to say that the Keith Summers memorial bash sounds more welcoming.
I presume that Mrs Route has never heard of Keith...Ah Well.


03 Mar 07 - 01:33 PM (#1985070)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG

Not surprised there are plenty of tickets available for Waterson Carthy at RAH. Most disappointed at a very amateurish show called Frost and Fire. The Mummers play was enough to make our beer curdle.

I must admit I had somewhat similar feelings when I saw "Frost and Fire". Musically, it was excellent, but everything else seemed very ... well, amateurish doesn't quite get it either - I've seen many mummers' plays (and other plays) by amateurs which were excellent. F&F was under-rehearsed, certainly. Self-indulgent, maybe?

I saw it very early in the tour (Dartford); maybe that was a factor.

But I've still bought tickets for the Watersons at Albert Hall in the hope F&F was some weird abberation!


03 Mar 07 - 01:39 PM (#1985079)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Terry McDonald

Saw Frost and Fire, with my non folky middle son, at Frome. We both thought it was a really good show. He bought the album the next day, and (to my surprise) the Devil's Interval album as well.


03 Mar 07 - 02:00 PM (#1985099)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Folkiedave

Then that is excellent taste by your son, and I should keep him going down that route.


03 Mar 07 - 02:07 PM (#1985103)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

I missed the first half of F&F, due to driving round Nottingham like a loon for over an hour searching for a very well hidden venue (note to self: SAT NAV!). The half I saw was smashing. The DI added a really lovely dimension.

The Watersons have a huge following nationally, and people will travel for this gig. It's much more than just the Watersons, for a start - every permutation they've ever played in seems to be lined up, so it's an all-star evening.

It's still over two months away. If it were two weeks away, I could see the folk-rock doom and gloom merchants' point. As a venue manager, I certainly wouldn't be worried at this stage.


03 Mar 07 - 02:28 PM (#1985113)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG

Unless the RAH online booking system is playing silly games, it looks like it is near to sold out already. If you try the 'choose you own seat' option you can see what's available in some detail (assuming, as I say, its not trying to pretend that more have been sold than really have, to please some marketing guru!)


03 Mar 07 - 02:30 PM (#1985114)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: DMcG

Oops! 'It' is of course referring to the Watersons booking, not the 'Show of Hands'.


03 Mar 07 - 02:42 PM (#1985119)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Dave the Gnome

How many are going from Blackburn,Lancashire?

10,000? Or is that holes in..?

:D


03 Mar 07 - 03:18 PM (#1985149)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,The Informer

To DMcG - You're correct. The Show of Hands show at the Royal Albert Hall is almost sold-out and I hear their show at Fareham on Good Friday is heading the same way.

To GUEST Keith - You're on the right track with your forecasts for Albert Hall guests. As you say Seth Lakeman can't be with Phil & Steve at the Albert Hall on Sunday as he's at the Fareham Easter Festival that night but as SoH are also at Fareham on the Friday who's to say Seth won't join them onstage then?


03 Mar 07 - 05:27 PM (#1985233)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

D McG was referring to the Watersons gig, actually, which would also appear to be almost sold out.


03 Mar 07 - 07:30 PM (#1985337)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Uncle Albert

Sorry to correct you Ruth but...

You have to remember it's a very strange situation at the Albert Hall as many seats are initially reserved for debenture holders.

In addition seats are sometimes released in blocks. Seats that may appear 'sold' on the 'choose your own seat' option may not have been released for sale at all yet.

Looking at the 'choose your own seat' option which is what DMcG did gives a very inaccurate impression regarding the number of seats actually sold.

A gig that may "appear to be almost sold out" could, in truth, be anything but.


03 Mar 07 - 08:25 PM (#1985375)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: AlexB

I don't see how you are correcting Ruth at all. If she had said they are almost sold out, maybe. However she said "it would [also] appear to be almost sold out." Just because those seats may not have been released for sale, it doesn't alter what it looks like, just whether what it looks like is accurate.


03 Mar 07 - 10:41 PM (#1985464)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Uncle Albert

Errrrrrr

I think you're confusing the confusion Alex.


04 Mar 07 - 05:36 AM (#1985590)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

Unless you have hard evidence to the contrary, Uncle Albert - ie, you work for the RAH or Mrs Casey music - it would appear from the evidence available that the Waterson's Albert Hall gig is almost sold out.


04 Mar 07 - 05:38 AM (#1985592)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss

My post above was open to misinterpretation - the idiot in question is called Tom (in case you thought I was being cruel to dumb animals). By the way my great great grandfather Alfred Hayes, the Impressario, was a partner in the RAH, and his seats are still in the family. They are managed by my sister as a little family business so if anyone can't get a seat, mail me on tom at slipjig do co dot uk and I'll see if they're all sold yet. (That goes for Watersons too)


04 Mar 07 - 05:42 AM (#1985595)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: BusyBee Paul

Thread creep!


Well, I will be at the SoH gig at the Albert Hall, along with friends from my part of the world (Lincs). And we'd be mighty pleased if there is a Faith, Folk and Anarchy reprise!.

Deirdre


04 Mar 07 - 05:58 AM (#1985607)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith

"...we'd be mighty pleased if there is a Faith, Folk and Anarchy reprise!".

The rumour is that Faith, Folk & Anarchy may do a full "Christmas" reunion show in December 2007. That would be great, if true.


04 Mar 07 - 08:08 AM (#1985667)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss

It seems we do have tickets for Show of Hands. Lightly less than the normal rate if anyone's interested. tom at slipjig dot co dot uk

(nb - pro artist not tout)!


04 Mar 07 - 08:16 AM (#1985671)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

Hey, what about the Kaiser Chiefs on 30 March and The Who on 31st?
They're sold out.
(Just trying to help Tom's sister's business, you understand . . . )


04 Mar 07 - 08:50 AM (#1985692)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Tom Bliss

Thanks D - actually she can always send unsold seat back to the office, and they usually go (though RAH takes a percentage of course - which people who buy from us - friends, usually can save). The RAH reserves all seats for big money spinners like the Who. Sadly I don't myself own a seat - though all my cousins and sibings do. (I'm afraid I wasn't as QUITE as well-behaved in my youth as I might have been)!

Watersons haven't arrived yet. Seats are all stalls near the back on the right as you look from the stage.


04 Mar 07 - 09:17 AM (#1985717)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish

FAITH, FOLK & ANARCHY

The Cold Heart Of England is on there....SUPERB SONG!



PS...NO-ONE is having my ticket!

:0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0) :0)


04 Mar 07 - 09:18 AM (#1985718)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith

I understand the hire charge for the "exclusive let" where you get all 5000 seats in the RAH is about twice the charge for the "normal" 4000. That's why most acts just book the hall the "cheap" way.

I saw The Who live last summer in a 4500 seat big top in Liverpool. Still awesomely good. Funnily enough, the new Kaiser Chiefs album is on my CD player as I type.

There are alot of good gigs at the RAH coming up. 2 nights of Noel Gallagher solo at end March (those all sold in an hour apparently)plus Ray Davies in May too. Always a superb night with Ray. Especially for Steve Knightley, Don McLean is playing either one or two nights there in the Autumn...


04 Mar 07 - 10:26 AM (#1985772)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

I'd like to go to the Kaiser Chiefs gig, actually. I really like them - they make me laugh.

My seats for the Watersons are down on the flat bit. Have you much experience of the RAH, Tom? Are these good seats in terms of sight lines and acoustics?


04 Mar 07 - 10:39 AM (#1985789)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith

Oh the arena area is fine. I sat four rows back from the front for the last Show of Hands RAH gig in 2001. The seats there are a bit narrow though. My chair tried to get up with me for every standing ovation, and there were about 4 of those. So this April I've gone for the stalls, where I undertand the horizontally challenged are better provided for.


04 Mar 07 - 10:41 AM (#1985793)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

I thing we're in something like row 12. I'm hoping it's not too far from the stage...


04 Mar 07 - 11:09 AM (#1985820)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith

This'll give you some idea of layout etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vUqeDPZZ80


04 Mar 07 - 11:15 AM (#1985824)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

Oh, Keith - very kind. But I don't think I can bring myself to sit through it.

But a very thoughtful gesture.


04 Mar 07 - 11:18 AM (#1985832)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: GUEST,Keith

It's OK. It's a completely unaccompanied sea shanty and its mostly Fishermens Friends you hear. You really won't need those pins I assure you.


04 Mar 07 - 11:21 AM (#1985837)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

that sounds more the thing, Keith - I'll give it a go!

It's the 80s folk-rock thing they do that has me reaching for the pins...


04 Mar 07 - 11:28 AM (#1985842)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

Well, very enjoyable that was - thanks, Keith!

And it gives a good feel of the venue - I reckon we must be about a third of the way back...that'll do.


04 Mar 07 - 11:42 AM (#1985855)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish

Sorry Ruth...the 'guest' wasn't me. You is getting more than a little paranoid m'dear.

And of course I've been rumbled on the BBC. I went in as 'Where's Lizzie?' to start with, then changed to Elizabeth Cornwallis.... Great Big Grin smiley...I never make it too difficult...heck Elizabeth even told people to call her Lizzie and gave them a wink! ;0)

Mind you...I posted about Neil Young, The Gathering, and Songs of War..oh and I put the video on for 'Roots' for someone who was enquiring about it...All zapped.

Great to see that the BBC and their 'hunting pals' the Moaning Minnies, are so supportive of folk music and not into personal witch hunts. Kind of smacks of 'victimisation to me mind...but hey ho!

Now...who shall I be tomorrow? ;0) Excited smiley!

GREAT VIDEO KEITH!!!!!!   Oh I LOVE those Fishermens Friends!! I'd love it if they were at The Royal Albert Hall as well.....and I'm keeping everything crossed that Martyn Joseph and Tom Robinson are there as well....I've never seen Faith Folk & Anarchy so I'd feel very privileged to see them.

We're in a box..first row up..I'll wave to you Keith! :0) Wavey Smiley!

Oh..the acoustics used to be rotten wherever you sat in the hall as I remember...but that was a scarily LONG time ago. My friend's Dad had a Company box there, so we saw loads of gigs as I was growing up..for free..very lucky...Neil Diamond, Melanie, Rod Mckuen, Bert Kampfert (that was a strange evening for a teenager!!) ;0)...Shirley Bassey (magic!)

But seeing Show of Hands there and soaking up the atmosphere is going to be incredible!

I think Steve should ask his Beautiful Clare to marry him all over again too..Awwwwwwwww!


Lizzie :0)


04 Mar 07 - 11:45 AM (#1985858)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: John MacKenzie

John the Baptist after torturing a thief
Looked up at his hero the Commander in Chief
And said "Tell me great hero, but please make it brief,
Is there a hole I can be sick in?"


04 Mar 07 - 11:55 AM (#1985872)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

"They always say third time lucky,is that you."

Excellent - heckling that is not only grammatically poor, but makes no sense. You're not related to Scooby by any chance, are you?


04 Mar 07 - 12:02 PM (#1985880)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

Good grief, SoH AND the MBS all in one thread.
Just as well Giok's digging that hole to be sick in.


04 Mar 07 - 12:04 PM (#1985882)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

Have all Guests become not only illiterate but barking?


04 Mar 07 - 12:05 PM (#1985883)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish

Oh nooooo...not another pain in the arss Moaning Minnie who insults people over their grammar! I'd suggest you talk to your pal The Countess about that Joanruth...We had many a long argument about that on the R2 board.

Tell me Ruth, why haven't you put your information about The Watersons in the er...thread entitled 'The Watersons At The RAH' ?
Anyone would think you're just trying to scupper, yet again, another Show of Hands thread...but I'm sure that's not the case at all....

Is it?

Great to see that the organiser of Loughborough Festival has such great respect for folk acts and for people who want to discuss particular musicians in a kind, uplifting and decent manner.

You'll notice that Show of Hands fans do NOT 'infiltrate' 'disrupt' and 'take over' the threads of any other musicians.....nor do they use their words to insult musicians either....

Are you sure you're organising the correct type of festival?


04 Mar 07 - 12:14 PM (#1985891)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

Umm, I have discussed the Watersons on that thread. I've also discussed SoH on this thread (and said nice things). Anyone would think that you were just putting the name of my festival wherever you can in a petty, nasty and small-minded atttempt to try and discredit it, Mrs Route, adulteress and fantasist of Sidmouth.

Have you met your pretendy boyfriend yet? It's a hell of a thing to be divorcing your long-suffering husband for someone who lives 3000 miles away that you've never even met, but horses for courses, I guess.


Tellya what, if I run into poor old Mr R at Sidders this year, I hope he'll leet me buy him a pint to congratulate him getting shot of you, you nutcase.

"You'll notice that Show of Hands fans do NOT 'infiltrate' 'disrupt' and 'take over' the threads of any other musicians"

no, you infiltrate, disrupt and take ove rwhole WEBSITES with your endless repetitive witterings. You ruin dialogue and destroy communities wherever you rear your poisonous, empty head. That's why so many people despise you.


04 Mar 07 - 12:18 PM (#1985900)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

Quote from LC in the first post of this thread:

This is the only post I'll put in here

So what happened? Short-term memory loss as a result of too many 'E's?


04 Mar 07 - 12:35 PM (#1985917)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish

Hmmm...Ruth I think you're showing your festival and yourself just slightly in the wrong light again m'dear.

As I said, Show of Hands fans don't behave in the way you choose to. Hope you enjoy your concert and your festival though.

I saw The Watersons at Siddy this year and very much enjoyed them.


Sorry Countess, 'twas Faith Folk & Anarchy that brought me back. I was thrilled to hear they might be there. I'm just listening to The Flood as I type this...and I have to say, that I'm very glad to be back in here too, else I'd have missed that Fishermen's Friends video that Keith put in...


04 Mar 07 - 12:35 PM (#1985918)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

As I said above, Guests are becoming completely barking as well as illiterate.
This is what comes of keeping children at home for so-called home education.
As well as being wholly unsocialised, they are unable to form adverbs correctly.
'So commonly', Guest.
And yes, it is hard not to despise SoH's neglect of musicality when those who have long known their past work (as opposed to LC who latched on to them approximately 5 minutes ago) are aware of how much better they have been before they stopped bothering.
As for Ruth's post of 12.14 (which I have no doubt will have vanished before I finish typing), I have kept a copy and will repost if necessary, as every word about LC's behaviour is true.


04 Mar 07 - 12:36 PM (#1985920)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Blowzabella

Lizzie, I'm confused ... if someone is an event organiser - or programmes a venue, do you feel that shouldn't have the right to have an opinion about a performer - on or off duty?

As far as I'm aware, Ruth hasn't been on here pushing anything professionally. I don't think she has even really mentioned Loughborough. She is using a nom de plume. This is a past-time pursuit, so it is reasonable to assume that the posts here contain her own personal opinions which may, or may not, coincide with those she expresses professionally. It also suggests that she wished to be separate from that role, when on here. There are many reasons why this might be.

Or, do you think that event organisers should have no outlet for chat in a forum such as this?

(And you know I have stuck up for you many times Lizzie but I don't agree with you here, at all, I'm afraid.)


04 Mar 07 - 12:39 PM (#1985921)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish

>>>And yes, it is hard not to despise SoH's neglect of musicality when those who have long known their past work (as opposed to LC who latched on to them approximately 5 minutes ago) are aware of how much better they have been before they stopped bothering.<<<

Ah yes..but that's only your opinion Sweetums.... :0)

Shame you're not coming, we could of shared a box together! ;0)


04 Mar 07 - 12:57 PM (#1985955)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Lizzie Cornish

Hello Blowz... :0)

Hope you're well...

No, this is about something which took place on the BBC board a while back now..and believe you me...there was much pushing of a certain festival and a certain festival organiser at the time, by said festival organiser over and over. There was also a very unnecessary remark made by said festival organiser about Show of Hands. I took umbridge over it and dared to say so...and World War 3 was declared after that I'm afraid....

It wasn't about SoH particularly, but about people having some sense of what is right and wrong when they are festival organisers, purely in my opinion. I merely think there is a line you should not cross on messageboards, particularly the BBC, about insulting artists, whoever those artists may be, especially if the festival itself may at times hire those artists and make money because of them, in order for their festivals to be successful.

It's about honour and a sense of integrity I guess.

Purely my opinion though, but ever since, the insults, as you can see, have been getting far, far worse.

I refuse to go down to those levels though.

And now...I'm away back to The Royal Albert Hall and 'South Australia'

I wish those Fishermen's Friends had a Myspace page...and Blowz...that reminds me!

WHEN are The New Scorpion Band going to get one? It would be a great idea! Help to spread the word etc....I've got them on my site, just as a link, but if they had their own page...magic things would happen! Myspace is that kind of place...it's AMAZING! Tell them they SO have to get one!


Lizzie :0)


04 Mar 07 - 12:57 PM (#1985956)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

we could of shared a box together

Don't you mean 'we could HAVE . . . '
However, in order to discover whether the company would include Mr Route or the possibly mythical Sam, it might almost be worth attending.
Though not for long.


04 Mar 07 - 01:02 PM (#1985960)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: The Borchester Echo

It's about honour and a sense of integrity I guess

That, from Mrs Route, adulteress of Sidmouth, makes Mr W Gates resemble a beggar on the streets of Calcutta.


04 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM (#1985964)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: John MacKenzie

Umbridge Lizzie, I didn't know you were an Archers fan.
G


04 Mar 07 - 01:04 PM (#1985965)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

Thank you, Blowzabella. I appreciate you expressing your feelings about this.

The thing I've never been able to understand is that Lizzie "outs" people all the time - it's a power thing, and she has often in the past used this as a weapon of intimidation.Yet she hides behind a fictitious name herself.

When people started treating her in-kind, and letting slip hints about her real identity and personal life, she went mental and cried "foul" to the moderators.

So why is it okay for her to do it to other people, but not for them to do it back to her? She hasn't even got a professional life to be discredited.


04 Mar 07 - 01:06 PM (#1985969)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: John MacKenzie

You mean she's only an amateur?
G


04 Mar 07 - 01:07 PM (#1985970)
Subject: RE: Show of Hands at The Royal Albert Hall
From: Ruth Archer

For the record, I have never "pushed" my work on any other message board any more than i have here on Mudcat. So you can judge for yourself how appropriate Mrs Route's constant references to it are.