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Limeliters: Classically Trained?

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Subject: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 26 Jun 26 - 10:04 AM

I'm listening to some Limeliters discs. (Thanks again, Joe!) And I notice that their voices seem very clear, as if they had possibly operatic training. And some of their instrumental riffs also suggest classical training. So...do we know if they did have this kind of training?

And expanding on that, I wonder how many other folks singers had classical training?

Saul


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: GUEST,Jim Yates
Date: 26 Jun 26 - 12:12 PM

According to Google:

Lou Gottlieb (Bass & Vocals): The group’s musical director and arranger was heavily trained in both jazz and classical theory . Before The Limeliters, he had played jazz piano and completed an extensive Ph.D. dissertation on 15th-century cyclic masses

Glenn Yarbrough (Guitar & Vocals): He had formative classical and choral training, singing as a professional boy soprano at St. Paul’s Cathedral in New York before shifting his focus to folk music.

Alex Hassilev (Guitar, Banjo & Vocals): He was an educated multi-instrumentalist who studied at Harvard and the University of Chicago . He provided the group's rhythmic drive and utilized his fluency in several languages to incorporate international music into their repertoire.


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 26 Jun 26 - 12:56 PM

Wow! Thanks, Jim!

Saul


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: The Og
Date: 27 Jun 26 - 10:50 AM

'Twas said that Gotleib would let Yarbrough and Hassilev establish their parts and they fill in the missing note WHEREVER it was ...gave a full 3-note sound.


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: The Og
Date: 27 Jun 26 - 10:53 AM

and... does ANYONE out there know the chords to "Gunslinger"?


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 27 Jun 26 - 07:22 PM

Hi Og,
I just put these words into a search, and I got several useful hits:

lyrics chords gunslinger limeliters


Saul


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: GUEST,saulgoldie
Date: 27 Jun 26 - 07:23 PM

Oh, and there was an earlier thread about this in Mudcat.

Saul


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: GUEST,Hootenanny
Date: 28 Jun 26 - 03:42 AM

Being a singer of folk songs does not make one a folksinger.


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: GerryM
Date: 28 Jun 26 - 06:21 AM

Kate Miller-Heidke https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kate_Miller-Heidke was classically trained. She was named Queen of the Woodford Folk Festival in 2002–2003, and I saw her at the Blue Mountains festival around that time; she was a singer-songwriter who would be a folkie in the same sense as Joni Mitchell or Leonard Cohen would be folkies. She left the folk scene, finding success as a pop star.

Marilla Homes is also classically trained. Here, she sings He Fades Away, written by Alistair Hulett: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7VN5r_J0p8


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: keberoxu
Date: 28 Jun 26 - 10:07 AM

The American singer Burl Ives was classically trained as well.


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: cnd
Date: 28 Jun 26 - 10:37 AM

As a relatively recent record collector and appreciator of the 60s pop-folk movement, the Limeliters are critically under-appreciated. I have four of the albums and always try to grab one if I find it for a decent price when I'm at the record store.

The liner notes to their seminal 1960 eponymous album report the following:
Before the chance meeting in Los Angeles which resulted in their merger, Lou Gottlieb, Alex Hassilev and Glenn Yarbrough had each worked as single supper club acts. Glenn Yarbrough had been singing at a club in Aspen, Colorado, called the Limelite (hence the group’s name). He returned yearly and eventually bought the lease, calling in Alex Hassilev as his partner. Alex, a professional actor in many off-Broadway shows, left Aspen to do a quickie horror movie. To pay his expenses he opened as a single singing act in Los Angeles at the Cosmo Alley. Later he was joined by Glenn and the act became a duet. At this point Lou Gottlieb met the duo; Lou, an original member of the Gateway Singers who had also written several hit arrangements for the Kingston Trio, organized the trio as the “Limeliters” and opened July 23 at San Francisco’s hungry i.

Lou Gottlieb does most of the arranging and composing for the group and also serves as their lofty comic spokesman. His constant companion on stage is the string bass, which well befits his tall and husky figure. Known in academic circles as Dr. Louis Gottlieb, his Ph.D in musicology could explain the brittleness of his wit and the crisp, professional zaniness of his introductions.

Alex Hassilev, tall, dark and suave, speaks and sings a multitude of languages in a rich baritone voice. His innumerable dialects and accents range from the Big Smokey to the Ural mountains--often within the same song. Such versatility is the result of years of theatrical training and experience. On stage, he switches from guitar to the five-string banjo with the relaxed ease of a virtuoso.

Glenn Yarbrough, an Elektra recording artist with several albums to his credit, possesses a high, lyric tenor voice of startling clarity and has an engaging way with the classical guitar. Boyish, with a casual air of unstudied naturalness, his solo work on When I First Came To This Land never fails to impose “concert hall silence” on the most boisterous, expense-account audience.

To summarize:
- Lou Gottlieb: Ph.D in musicology, arranged for The Kingston Trio
- Alex Hassilev: professional actor, started out in stage and theater productions
- Glenn Yarbrough: the (comparatively) "unstudied natural[]" of the group, though he had experience in classical and choral training as a child (hat tip to Jim above)


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Subject: RE: Limeliters: Classically Trained?
From: The Og
Date: 28 Jun 26 - 11:25 AM

Thanks for the tip, Saul!


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