Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: GUEST,caoimhe
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 02:40 PM

thanks for all the help
thanks again,

      caoimhe.

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: Thompson
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 03:43 PM

Dord/durd comes from the conventions of Irish spelling. Dord would be correct for something rhyming with 'word' in the modern caighdeán, but durd might have been used in the 19th century - for instance, An Bonnán Buí, The Yellow Bittern, is An Bunnán Buí in 19th- and early-20th-century versions.

Similarly, what was always 'bas' when I was a child - the palm of the hand, pronounced to rhyme with 'moss', is now almost always written 'bos', which should properly be pronounced to rhyme with the English word 'bus'.

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: skarpi
Date: 22 Mar 11 - 05:45 PM

"Óró,'Sé Do Bheatha 'Bhaile". (Oh-ro, You Are Welcome Home)

oh I like this song ...:O) and love singing it ....

all the best Skarpi

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: Sean Fear
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 03:10 PM

The origins of the song are in the original a Jacobite version in which The Young Pretender is called "Shéarlais Oig, Mhic Rí Shéamais" (Young Charles, King James's son") as stated in the first line of the song, is the one who was welcomed home to claim his birthright in 1745.
The lyrics of the newer version were written by Pádraig Pearse, one of the leaders of the Irish Rebellion of 1916, as an invitation to all Irishmen away from Ireland to return home and join the fight for independence.
The tune is in P. W. Joyce as "Oro,'Se do Bheatha a Bhaile": "Oro, Welcome Home!" A Hauling-Home Song, with following explanation:
"The 'Hauling Home' was bringing home the bride to her husband's house after marriage. It was usually a month or so after the wedding, and was celebrated as an occasion next only in importance to the wedding itself. The bridegroom brought back home his bride at the head of a triumphal procession- all on cars or on horseback. I well remember one where the bride rode on a pillion behind her husband. As they entered the house the bridegroom is supposed to speak or sing:
- Oro, sé do bheatha a bhaile,
Is fearr liom tu ná céad bo bainne:
Oro, sé do bheatha a bhaile,
Thá tu maith le rátha.
Oro, welcome home,
I would rather have you than a hundred milch cows:
Oro, Welcome home,
'tis you are happy with prosperity.
Pearse's Versionwith a fair translation is as follows:

ORO, SE DO BHEATHA ABHAILE
(OH WELCOME HOME)



SE DO BHEATHA, A BHEAN BA LEANMHAR
B'E AR GCREACH TU BHEITH I NGEIBHINN
DO DHUICHE BHREA I SEILBH MEIRLEACH
'S TU DIOLTA LEIS NA GHALLAIBH

WELCOME LADY OF GREAT SORROW
WE SHARE THE GRIEF OF YOUR INTERNMENT
YOUR FAIR LAND IN THE HANDS OF BRIGANDS
AND YOU IN BONDAGE TO STRANGERS


ORO, SE DO BHEATHA ABHAILE
ORO, SE DO BHEATHA ABHAILE
ORO, SE DO BHEATHA ABHAILE
ANOIS AR THEACHT AN TSAMHRAIDH

OH WELCOME HOME
OH WELCOME HOME
OH WELCOME HOME
NOW THE SUMMER IS COMING


TA GRANNIE MHOAL AG TEACHT THAR SAILE
OGLAIGH ARMTHA LEI MAR GHARDA
GAEIL IAD FEIN IS NI GAILL NA SPAINNIGH
IS CUIRFIDH RUAIG AR GHALLAIBH

GRANNIE MHOAL (GRACE O'MALLEY) IS CROSSING THE OCEAN
WITH ARMED WARRIORS AS HER GUARD
GAELS ARE THEY NOT FRENCH NOR SPAINNARDS
THEY WILL OVERWHELM TO THE FOREIGNERS

ORO.........


A BHUI LE RI NA BHFEART GO BHFEICEAM
MUNA MBEAM BEO INA DHIAIDH ACH SEACHTAIN
GRANNIE MHOAL AGUS MILE GAISCIOCH
AG FOGAIRT FAIN AR GHALLAIBH

THANK HEAVEN'S KING THAT WE SHALL SEE
EVEN THOUGH WE DIE SOON AFTER (THE NEXT WEEK)
GRANNIE MHOAL AND A THOUSAND WARRIORS
HERALD THE STRANGER'S RETREAT


ORO.........

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: harmonic miner
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 03:22 PM

I think 'dord' is used for Bass in Irish. 'Durd' would not be far off the pronunciation, at least in Munster Irish

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: michaelr
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 05:11 PM

'Dord" is used for 'bass'. Says so right on the back of my Clannad 2 LP.

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: RunrigFan
Date: 23 Mar 11 - 06:00 PM

ORO, SE DO BHEATHA ABHAILE

Original Jacobite Version

       (Chorus)

    Óró, sé do bheatha 'bhaile,
    bh'Fearr liom tú ná céad bó bhainne,
    Óró, sé do bheatha 'bhaile
    Anois ar theacht an tsamhraidh.

    A Shéarlais Óig[1], a mhic Rí Shéamais[2]
    'Sé mo mhór-chreach do thriall as Éirinn
    Gan tuinnte bróig' ort, stoca nó leinidh
    Ach do chascairt leis na Gallaibh

       Chorus

    'Sé mo léan géar nach bhfeicim
    Mur mbéinn beo 'na dhiaidh ach seachtain
    Séarlas Óg is míle gaiscidheach
    Ag fógairt fáin ar Ghallaibh

       Chorus

    Tá Séarlas Óg ag triall thar sáile
    Béidh siad leisean, Franncaigh is Spáinnigh
    Óglaigh armtha leis mar gharda
    'S bainfidh siad rinnce as éiricigh!

       Chorus

        
English translation

       (Chorus)

    Oh-ro You're welcome home,
    I'd rather you to a hundred milking cows,
    Oh-ro You're welcome home...
    Now that summer's coming!

    Young Charles, son of King James
    It's a great distress – your exile from Ireland
    Without thread of shoe on you, socks or shirt
    Overthrown by the foreigners

       Chorus

    Alas that I do not see
    If I were alive afterwards only for a week
    Young Charles and one thousand warriors
    Banishing all the foreigners

       Chorus

    Young Charles is coming over the sea
    They will be with him, French and Spanish
    Armed Volunteers with him as a guard
    And they'll make the heretics dance!

       Chorus

[edit] Padraig Pearse Version

       (Chorus)

    Óró, sé do bheatha 'bhaile,
    Óró, sé do bheatha 'bhaile,[3]
    Óró, sé do bheatha 'bhaile
    Anois ar theacht an tsamhraidh.

    'Sé do bheatha, a bhean ba léanmhar,
    Do b' é ár gcreach tú bheith i ngéibheann,
    Do dhúiche bhreá i seilbh méirleach,
    Is tú díolta leis na Gallaibh.

       Chorus

    Tá Gráinne Mhaol ag teacht thar sáile,
    Óglaigh armtha léi mar gharda,
    Gaeil iad féin is ní Gaill[4] ná Spáinnigh,
    Is cuirfidh siad ruaig ar Ghallaibh.

       Chorus

    A bhuí le Rí na bhFeart go bhfeiceam,
    Mura mbeam beo ina dhiaidh ach seachtain,
    Gráinne Mhaol agus míle gaiscíoch,
    Ag fógairt fáin ar Ghallaibh.

       Chorus

        
[edit] English translation

       (Chorus)

    Oh-ro You're welcome home,
    Oh-ro You're welcome home,
    Oh-ro You're welcome home...
    Now that summer's coming!

    Welcome oh woman who was so afflicted,
    It was our ruin that you were in bondage,
    Our fine land in the possession of thieves...
    And you sold to the foreigners!

       Chorus

    May it please the King of Miracles that we might see,
    Although we may live for a week once after,
    Gráinne Mhaol and a thousand warriors...
    Dispersing the foreigners!

       Chorus

    Gráinne O'Malley[5] is coming over the sea,
    Armed warriors along with her as her guard,
    They are Irishmen, not French nor Spanish...
    And they will rout the foreigners!

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: GUEST,Kate D.
Date: 16 Mar 12 - 05:28 PM

Thanks, Jack, for pointing out the similarity in the melody between that Johnie Cope variation and Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile.

Subject: RE: Oro Se Do Bheatha Bhaile
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Mar 12 - 11:28 AM

i was told by an irish speaker it was about the earls comming back from europe.