Obit: Child killed in ATV accident

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Greg F.
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:18 PM

Of course its the parents fault! I said so, above, and they should be banged up in jail & and their other children, if any, placed into care for their protection.

Since none of that is going to happen, I'm just looking for some good to come out of a misearble situation.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Wesley S
Date: 18 Oct 05 - 05:55 PM

The death of a child is never the "bright side". Greg - rethink your position - your "logic" is faulty.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 08:21 AM

If this widespread problem of Parental Idiocy is to be solved, we've got to break the Cycle of Stupidity.

These children are making the ultimate scarifice in this noble effort, The War on Irresponsibility.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:58 AM

Education is a much less wasteful and painful approach to curing stupidity, Greg.

Like Wesley said, go rethink your position. The [problematic] Darwin awards aren't about throwing ones children off the precipice. Eugenics is an idea whose time is long gone.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Greg F.
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 12:08 PM

No, the Darwin Awards are about not short-circuiting the process of natural selection by protecting morons from the consequences of their actions.

Education vs. Eugenics. Interesting.

Especially since its abundanttly clear that education ain't working...

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 01:07 PM

It looks like an inmate wants to run the asylum. . .

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Cluin
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 04:10 PM

Bad shit happens. People always want to find someone to blame when bad shit happens. These were tragic accidents, whatever the circumstances (and all we have is a little news byte on it all). Nobody wanted what happened to happen. I hope neither you nor I never know what the people involved are going through.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Oct 05 - 10:16 PM

It is difficult enough just understanding the random accidents that happen in the world, that when you see one that could have *easily* been prevented you want to kick something. Or someone. Throw them in jail for being so stupid. Society doesn't have a really good response to the curse of inadequate parenting. Education is a good idea--but those same people who need it are usually the ones needed to vote to fund it to put a ballot measure over the top.

There's the rub.

SRS

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 10:53 AM

Inadequate parenting? That father probably thought he was doing a good job - spending time with his kid, doing something together. Doing an activity and buying a product which was public, advertised, okayed by the safety commissions and practiced by others. Buying and riding ATV's is not something you or I would do, but that doesn't make it malfeasance.

Do you think he was awful because he didn't hear the kid turn off when his own engine was roaring in his ears? His failure was one that parents have committed time and again - not realizing how quickly the kid has become more independent. Sometimes this discovery leads to minor pleasure, sometimes it leads to tragedy. Nonetheless, it happens all the time.

Don't criticize a person till you've walked a mile in his moccasins.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:08 PM

Thanks, leeneia.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 20 Oct 05 - 12:19 PM

You don't consider it a lapse in good judgement to let a small child ride a powerful machine? Walking a mile in his shoes would no likely leave me with dead children on my hands.

No thanks--I think I'll pass on that prescription.

SRS

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 03:34 PM

I don't know all the facts of this event, but I had a three year old child killed in an atv accident. He was sitting on a swing eating figs with his grandmother and when other kids left it running and got off he took off and jumped on. It happened so fast and couldn't have been prevented. These things are very dangerous and in my opinion, lacks saftey features. A three year old child should be unable to operate them. It is a parents decision, however, what happens in cases like mine, where he was to quick to stop? I'm tired of other countries and big companies dumping this crap on us and calling it safe. I't not!!

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 05:10 PM

Little 7 year old girl was killed in quad bike accident day after christmas a couple of years ago. about a half a year later her father was arrested for manslaughter.

He was in his car on dark county road, escoting his 2 kids on their quad bikes back to their home, when an oncoming car, passed him and some how struck the quad bike his daughter was following on. Whether she wandered over to the other side of road, or because county lanes are so narrow and she didn't pull over for on coming car, is not known.

Maybe I am over cautious, but if I ever let my kids on one of those things, which I wouldn't, it would only be in a field, after they had all the safety lessons and with correct protective gear.

How bad that dad must feel.

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Nov 09 - 06:36 PM

Do ATVs and such small vehicles not have keys? ...or other off switches to control who can use them?

Subject: RE: Obit: Child killed in ATV accident
From: goatfell
Date: 07 Nov 09 - 09:23 AM

so sad that their child has died,however what person allows a child to drive a car.

hindsight i think