I recall interviewing Fred Jordan, and as it was a radio interview, I asked him to sing a song that expressed his act...

He proceeded to sing his version of "Grandfather's Clock" which without an audience to appreciate his pregnant pauses was not exactly what I wanted.

"Reedcutter's Daughter?" I asked.

"Ask Tom Brown to sing that for you."   He said.

"But Tom learned it from you!" I said. (Tom and Bertha Brown were old friends, I know where he got his songs from!)

"Ah, but in the tradition, he learned it at his mother's knee." Said Fred.

Neither gentleman is around now, but I reckon they would have enjoyed this debate. Further, I reckon they both appreciated an audience, so tradition, traditionalist, call them medieval punk if you like, so long as they had a pint and people who thought them something special.

We all play to crowds, even old men......