Thanks to one and all who has responded to the thread - definitely some things to ponder - particularly the regularity thing. The original thinking behind going through the summer was to try and attract some of the visitors from nearby Finlake/Holman's Wood holiday places. Doesn't seem to be working. As to advertising, we do what we ( I ) can in terms of local stuff. I use the newsgroups and have stuff posted on local websites (Dartington Morris etc ) with links to our website, which I try to update on a regular basis. So I don't THINK it's for lack of information. I shall ponder and say thanks again....and if you're around.....? Jo, I'll drop you a personal message and we can trade the 'gos ' on the iniquitous cauldron that is Chudleigh.......that's got 'em thinking !! Thanks again. Teller.