Thanks for this poignant thread Liam; The whole area of children's rights to have healthy relationship with 2 parents is something I'm passionate about. (I purposely say "healthy" because there are some instances when this is sadly not possible). The denial of contact with a perfectly good parent was an aspect of my childhood - the experience is part of my resource; I choose now to work in an area where the needs and rights of children have paramountcy. There are so many children who miss out on the active love of both a father and mother - it can be an unrestorable loss to grieve for throughout a life. Unlike the loss of a parent through death, it can also be hidden. Children's feelings often receive little acknowledgment when parents separate. So, any of you guys out there not investing your chidren with love and fun? I hope this thread can influence you - what you have to offer to your children is both huge and important; the simple act of showing love, teaches a child that they are valued. Arohanui Ana