McGrath, I'm not sure that the demonstrations prior to the invasion of Iraq were because people thought the war would end up in an unholy mess as much as they were about the morality of a "pre-emptive" (what a rationalization!) strike. Strangely enough, however, one of the reasons Canada didn't support the US and get into the war was because our intelligence people felt it would end up in an unholy mess, just as it has.