Malcolm, she would be ecstatic to know that anyone would know who she was. I will tell her tomorrow about your message. i think that John Moulden (who I don't know but she might well)   was the spark for this thread. I saw some of his postings on another thread and described them to her (she and I live on opposite sides of North America, so I see her three times a year). She suggested that I might put this out to mudcatters. I will follow up on your suggestion, since she can't these days Thank you very much.