well one view point is 'you've got to be cruel to be kind' or is that just words from a song? I was in the library earlier today and picked up a leaflet about 'humanists'. i have nt read it yet but boy does it smell good. I dont know what it is but some leaflets smell much better than others. I've sadly been to sa few colleagues funerals lately and one of the 'best' was a humanist one. I suppose one fear of 'the karma army' is that it is mistaken for some kind of 'cult' or 'way ahead' but you know what, even though i enjoy being rotten sometimes ...it's much,much better being nice. (I've just sniffed the leaflet again...boy oh boy)

ritchie