BRAVE GUEST at least have the decency to add your name or state facts - most of the junk posted is third hand and based on what someone said happened to someone else - no business would still be in existence if all that is attributed to cm / d bulmer had occurred - i think the naive are those who have jumped on this band wagon to have a go. Musicians getting shafted by producers and record companies is nothing new but habging on to something you own till the time you want to either sell it or utilise it, depending on market conditions as far as i am aware is good practise - precisely what CM are accused of - also i have yet to meet anyone on the folk scene (including major touring artists who make much from royalties anyway - as pointed out earlier in this thread we are not talking about thousands of tiltles or copies anyway - pirates are probably taking more out of the artises pocket than anyone else on the folk scene - where incidently most of the act i book sell their own CD's at gigs more than anywhere else