"All I am saying is that we cannot extrapolate the values we have as humans and apply them to all of creation."

I know. But we cannot deny the values we have as humans just because they do not apply to all of creation. They do apply to us.

Many years ago I had a cousin born with a heart that grew much faster than the rest of him. It crowded his lungs and he suffocated when he was a year old. I don't think I should have told his mother that it was of little consequence in terms of the universe. Would any of you?

And this was not the result of any human decision, like murder; you can't blame it on the human race. Everyone who knew him would've saved him if they could but the all-powerfiul, all-good god would not. And if his death was of little consequence in terms of the universe, I can't believe that his life would've done any harm.

What I'm saying is that these "omni-" values people attribute to god cannot all exist at once.

clint