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GUEST,Clint Keller BS: Frank Talk about the US in Iraq (171* d) RE: BS: Frank Talk about the US in Iraq 07 Dec 04


"These days you hear about the nasty stuff pretty much as soon as it happens, unfiltered by censors, but also by sense . Many people are so against the war, so outraged, that they are leaping at every plume of smoke."

Trouble is, there are things like this, which is not out of context nor sensationalized.
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Fri Dec 3,10:05 AM ET
By MICHAEL J. SNIFFEN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Evidence gained by torture can be used by the U.S. military in deciding whether to imprison a foreigner indefinitely at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, as an enemy combatant, the government says.

Statements produced under torture have been inadmissible in U.S. courts for about 70 years. But the U.S. military panels reviewing the detention of 550 foreigners as enemy combatants at the U.S. naval base in Cuba are allowed to use such evidence, Principal Deputy Associate Attorney General Brian Boyle acknowledged at a U.S. District Court hearing Thursday.
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This seems to be straight reporting, and it supports the accusation of "self-serving hypocrisy" laid against the Bush administration. You know, the people with values.

Wasn't it Kipling's crocodile who never killed anything? He just held them under water and the river drowned them. So the US never tortures anybody, but we deport them to countries who do and we accept the work of torturers....

This is not the America I grew up in.

clint


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