As usual, a whole lot of BS and not a lot of frank talk.   I still have not heard one single plan on how to succeed.    All I hear is how to fail.   The party of doom and gloom.

OK- for those of you who want to immediately pull out of Iraq (I would much rather have you pull out of other things and protect the gene pool) what then?   Leave it to the UN?   The country that has already bailed out of Iraq and any other country when the bullets start flying.

What then?   Maybe you don't care.   Let there be civil war and have millions die like in Cambodia and Rowanda.   Compassionate liberalism at work.   I wouldn't really care either except that the terrorists will take control and that threatens the USA.

I say give the north to the Kurds.   I know that on a Mudcat Forum we are not allowed to discuss the Kurds.   After all, it is far safer to walk the streets in Northern Iraq than it is to walk the streets of NYC, Detroit, London, or Toronto.   The Kurds are very pro USA which is why the media has barred anyone from talking about them.   The Sunni's are going to boycott the elections.   Good.   They don't deserve any power.   If they rebell, kill them all.   Give the other half of the country to the Shiites in the south where there is also relative peace.   If Turkey threatens to invate the Kurds (as most analysts say they will) tell Turkey that we will support the Kurds, and give the Kurds control of Turkey if they invade.

I would then take all the money stolen in the UN food for oil program and use it to pay of Iraq debts.   This would allow them to fund a security force.    I would also double the price of oil to France, Germany, Russia, and China.    If they don't like it they could do without it.   I would also charge Saudi Arabia and Quatar a fee for protection from terrorists of 1 million per day.   If they do not pay, we deduct if from our oil purchases now.   If they stop shipments, we empound their oil barges.   This would cause the Saudi government to collapse in weeks.

I am sure you disagree with most of this.   So come up with your own solutions.   

PS:   A solution is not that we pull out of Iraq.   That is just the starting point.