Sir jOhn and Martin G. are two peas in a pod. That's why they hate each other.
They can both be funny & entertaining,
helpful and informative,
pig-ignorant and offensive.

Mudcat works as it works. For four years now (that I know of) there has very rarely been a time when there wasn't at least one thread regarding what should be done to make it better.
It's a Folk & Blues forum. If you want structure and civility go to a place where you can reasonably expect to find structure and civility.

Every clown wants to play Hamlet.