Martin Gibson says "dinavan, last time I check the Lord's Prayer started "Our Father, etc."

that and why God is referred to as "Him" just about everywhere except in the most feminist of worlds leads me to believe God does not wear a bra and panties."

Actually a reasonable reading of the Bible would show that God has both male and female attributes.

"God created man in his own image male and female he created them.
So God's creation in his own image is both male and female!

Isaiah refers to God "Can a mother desert her children"

This may be a view of God that some Christians find difficult but you will find it there in the Bible. Jesus said of Jerusalem, "How often would I have gathered you under my wings but you would not." Even Jesus uses a female metaphor for himself.

Like many others, I believe that GS' original post was not well thought out - faith is not for proving or disproving, it's for living. But if Martin is going to say things like the above he should at least check out the text-book.

Frank L.