I want to thank everyone once again for their input on this subject. I do however; feel saddened by the fact that there were some who insensitively used this thread to make fun of those in the LDS church. And to Ray, in regards to your comment about me being a troll because I did not identify myself as being raised in the LDS church when I started this thread, please go back and re-read my second post which I made that fact clear. It was not my intentions to make anyone think that I did not have prior knowledge of the church and it's teachings so as soon as I realized that I omitted that and people may think I was investigating the church for possible membership, I rectified the situation by making my second post reflect my background. Also, my third post mentions that I was raised in the LDS church and that my father was the one with whom I have had disagreements with over this matter. I also would like to direct you to the post I made on 08 Jan 05 - 01:42 PM. In this post I thanked those who seriously responded to my inquiry, and voiced my disapproval to those who made fun of the members of the church. So, for you to call me a troll was not only uncalled for, but it makes me feel that you obviously are very sensitive about your beliefs. That is fine, I also would like for you to know that I have actually asked Joe about closing this thread on more than one occasion. Also on my post 30 Jan 05 - 07:37 PM, I mentioned that I would not mind this thread being closed. So before anyone else decides to call me a troll, re-read all my posts, you will then see that is not the case. Also, RAY, I do not doubt your sincerity when you wish anyone Christian love and I think it was rather hypocritical of you to state that I was not sincere. You do not know me, you cannot judge my heart, only God knows what is in everyone's heart and we are not to be judgmental. If I am not mistaken, the LDS church actually cautions people in judging others. Best to you, Susanne