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Devilmaster BS: Vancouver blows off Walmart (41) RE: BS: Vancouver blows off Walmart 02 Jul 05


Man.... speaking as a politician, these comments by the councillors are funny and sad.


A LOOK AT WHERE BOTH SIDES STAND

Anne Roberts
AGAINST
"I want to start by congratulating Wal-Mart for . . . a very innovative design. But it does not overcome a fundamental flaw, which is that it is a retail development that is based on the use of the car."


Umm.... North America is based on the freakin car. When I visited my sister when she lived in Burnaby and then PoMo, we'd drive to IKEA all the time, and other Canadian Tires and such. sheesh.

Sam Sullivan
FOR
"It's not the job of city council to decide how businesses should operate."


Well, yes and no. You can't decide how they operate on a global scale, but you can work to affect how they operate their local store.

Peter Ladner
FOR
"I'm not crazy about the things that Wal-Mart does, but I don't think we should take the freedom of choice away from others."


That is probably the most rational comment of them all. In politics, you don't hear from the people who are content with how everything is going. I've been a politician for 5 years. Not once have I ever received a phone call out of the blue telling me that a parent is happy with their school system and they just called to tell me that. Not that I would expect it either. But, as a politician, you have to remember not everyone will be up in arms about a Canadian Tire or WalMart moving in. And you represent THEM too.

Raymond Louie
AGAINST
"We control land use every day. I do believe it is appropriate to support our local shopping areas."


Then drop municipal taxes for those small businesses. Oops, can't do that, cities need the money. Hope he never shops at a big box anywhere in the Greater Vancouver area - hate to call him a hypocrite.

Ellen Woodsworth
AGAINST
"It creates one job by destroying three jobs."


Hope she has some real stats to back this up. Especially since the store hasn't opened yet. But then again, 87.4% of people know that stats can be manipulated to say what the manipulator wants it to say.

Jim Green
AGAINST
"What we're trying to do is create a livable city."


Huh? So lower priced merchandise in one of the most stupidly expensive cities in North America doesn't create a city thats more livable? Let's be honest here. Vancouver is a small patch of penninsula where people keep moving in to. One store will not upset the balance of traffic that much. Hell, my brother in law, used to live in Burnaby and would drive 45 minutes each way to work in Richmond. Then they decided to move, and moved to PoMo and put himself with a drive over an hour each day to work. And they accept that. Its life in that big city.

Tim Louis
AGAINST
"I am pleased to be voting in favour of keeping Vancouver free of one of the world's largest corporate criminals."


LEFT WING WACKO!!!!! And don't hate on me because I said that. I would same the exact same thing about a right wing wacko. Wanna know the true difference between a left and a right wing wacko? - Its who plays in front of the net when the puck is in the corner. The fatal flaw in this guys comments were the 'supporting Bush comments'. Hey, you're supposed to be representing all your constituents - not making international political statements. Go federal if you want to do that.

Larry Campbell
FOR
"The way we can solve [problems with Wal-Mart's practices] is by working with them, not by banning them. This could well be the first unionized Wal-Mart in the world."


The first comment is spot on. There are corporations out there now, who look at Canadian Tire and Walmart, and say 'Why do we want to deal with a city council that is not supportive of large business?' City Council is to represent everyone who lives in that city. Not just the NIMBYs.

The city of Vancouver, a city I've been to and like, IMO has been hurt by these two votes, by a majority of councillors who aren't taking the opinion of all Vancouverites into account.


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