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Shakey BS: 'The Face of 911' in London? (325* d) RE: BS: 'The Face of 911' in London? 20 Jul 05

Dear nanoo nanoo,

I'm standing here, leaning on my spade, having a fag, just wondering exactly what it is about you that makes me want to sit you on my knee and tell you a story while at the same time feel a burning desire to give your arse a kick.

I have stated a number of times that Blair's policy probably did increase the terrorist risk, at least in terms of when it would happen
I have stated a number of times that Blair's policy probably did increase the terrorist risk, at least in terms of when it would happen

No that wasn't a mistake, I'm just hoping that given enough chances to read something it might sink in.

Terrorism can't be defeated by military force. Alone.

Of course Islamic terrorism is a scourge, but how can we stand up to it when the terrorists are our own children,and the children of our neighbours

Oh, OK, let's do nothing then.

Well thankfully "our" values have spread far and wide, and, to be frank, we won't settle this completely until these same values are spread world-wide. You see, Islam is rule based,i.e. it's based on following rules, a small group of people make the rules and you follow them, not only in a religous context but in your daily life. Western liberalsim (are you listening carol) has grown out of that other scourge of mankind, christianity, but christianity was based upon individual conscience i.e. people made their own mind up about things, at least once they freed themselves from the bishop of rome, freedom to do what you want but having to answer for it later. We value our personal freedom to decide our own fate and it's been rather successful, unfortunately this deep seated idea of personal freedom has led to a situation (in the west) where we tolerate anything and evrything because we want to respect the personal freedom of others. Our greatest strength and our greatest weakness.

If we really believe in the basic truths of equality for women and across all races etc why do we (the UN) tolerate what happens in other cultures: people have human rights, groups do not.

So finally we can agree. There will be no quick fix.

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