When folks here pointed out that the Bible indeed had some less than flattering parts you dismissed those arguements...

I'm still waiting for those biblical quotes.

As i said, the Bible makes some very outdated references, and is barbaric in someways, however, Western Christianity has progressed, become tolerant, adapteds its message to wider audience. It does not preach quotes like:

Qur'an 8:12 "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes."


All i am saying is that Islam, as a faith needs to progress to a more modern and tolerant standing. It is currently regressive. Now for Critisizing Islam, Carol would have it that i am a 'hate-monger', but in fact critical analysis is what makes us a good society. The freedom to speak out on matters than each person thinks warrants opinion.

Also, bear in mind, that threads such as these may not be permitted in the near future, all in the name of multi-culturalism and equality, we will see how many of us like having our freedom curtailed then.

I expect better understanding of his mother tongue from a monoculturalist, David. Moral responsibility is what I referred to, not committing murder itself. The simple, and unavoidable, moral responsibility for spreading the hate that results in the axe being buried in Anthony Walker's skull.

Perhaps you did not instigate the events that resulted in that murder. Perhaps you never even met those that committed it. But you do spread the messages on which their hate is based. So, wash all you like, fella - this one doesn't come off your hands.

Erm..No. Equally, i could say you, the pro-multiculturalist, were responsible for the deaths of Kriss Donald, a white lad murdered by Muslim racists. Here are just a few. In fact, i do blame the pro-multiculturalists, so wash your hands all you like, fella, but these don't come off your hands.

Fred Carter 64, 13 July 1993 New Cross, South London. Battered to the ground, kicked and jumped on in a lift by a black named Junior Samuel.
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Mark Sharp 39, 1993 Luton, Bedfordshire. A family man killed in a road rage attack by Asians. The suspected killer, Abdul Abedin, fled the country to Bangladesh which has no extradition treaty with Britain. A warrant for his arrest was issued but a Bangladeshi High Commission spokesman said "We have no extradition treaty with Britain. It can only be done on goodwill now. It depends on how serious the British government is."
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Annie Castle 74, 22 August 1993 Bethnal Green, East London. Mrs Castle was a great-grandmother who had lived in the East End all her life. One night a Negro broke into her flat and tied up her friend Billy Bryan and tore the rings off her fingers, she suffered a heart attack and died on the spot.
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Billy Bryan 71, 22 August 1993Bethnal Green, East London. Mr Bryan had been staying with Mrs Castle on the night that Black intruder entered her flat. Elderly Mr Bryan was found the next morning lying on the floor, dead with his hands and feet bound. He had died of a massive heart attack. Police never found the black murderer.
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PC Patrick Dunne 44, 20 October 1993 Clapham. Local Clapham community officer PC Patrick Dunne was attending a minor domestic disturbance across the street at 28 Cato Road when he heard the sound of gunfire. As he went outside to investigate he was shot once in the chest. Three blacks left the scene laughing and firing shots into the air in triumph. He was pronounced dead on arrival at St. Thomas's Hospital.
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Philip Gosling 13, February 1994 Handsworth, Birmingham. Young Philip was the only white boy in his class, and was one of only five whites out of 500 at Handsworth Wood Boys' school. He was constantly racially bullied and had been burned on the neck with a match and threatened with a knife. He was chased into the path of a van by a gang of Asians from the school and killed.
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Emmanuel Hand 35, 15 May 1994 Holloway Tavern, Holloway Road. London N7. Warren Mathurin (also known as Warren Desmangles, now 43), of Jamaican parents, was sitting at the bar and insulting bar staff and asked to leave. He ran home, returning with a knife with a 9-inch blade and loudly challenged the Ulsterman landlord to come outside. Emmanuel did and Mathurin stabbed him three times in the heart. As Emmanuel was carried to the ambulance the already over-powered Mathurin taunted him "I warned you Manny, I warned you."
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Richard Everitt 15, August 1994 Kings Cross London NW1. Schoolboy known as a gentle giant attacked by a gang of Bengalis (East Pakistanis). Stabbed to death. Main suspects helped to escape to Bengal by their families and community. One gang member in prison for assault, an active 'Justice for Kings Cross One' campaign operating to get him released. Warrants still in operation for the murderers. Richard's family refused admittance to Bengali protest meeting in Camden Town Hall, trying to speak on Richard's behalf.
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Leslie Watkinson 66, 9 December 1994 Peckham, South London. Former Salvation Army major killed for his pension by three black youths, ran away shouting "I bust his head." Killers never found.
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Frank Dempsey 56, 7 February 1995South London. Had pleurisy, spat on ground, passing black youth turned round shouting abuse and stabbed him. Killer never found.
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Brian Harvey 31, 1 August 1998 Walthamstow, East London. Brian was playing pool in the Churchill snooker club with his brother, when an Asian in his mid 20s, in an unprovoked attack, slashed him across his jugular vein. Police described it as an execution-style killing.
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Peter Harvey 26, 1 August 1998 Walthamstow, East London. Peter was eating at the bar of the snooker club with his girlfriend watching his brother Brian enjoy a game of pool. When the Asian slashed his brother, Peter went to his assistance and was also cut across the jugular vein. Both men where described as decent and hard working and devoted to their elderly widowed mother.
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Winifred Sills 79, 1 May 2000 Manor Park, East London. Miss Sills was returning home from a trip to the shops, using a walking frame as she was very frail. A 15 year old 6ft tall Asian hit her from behind for her handbag, which contained less than a pound. She hit her head against a car as she fell to the ground and went into a coma later that day. She never regained consciousness and died two weeks later at Newham General Hospital from a massive brain haemorrhage. The Asian murderer bragged, laughed and joked about the attack and got a short sentence for manslaughter.
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Elizabeth Amlot 39, 1 February 2001 Woodside Park, North London. Miss Amlot was returning from a New year party when Turkish Kurd asylum- seeker Sertan Balci dragged her into an alley, punched her to the ground and repeatedly kicked her. She died a month later in hospital. After his trial it was discovered that Balci had carried out a series of sex ambushes.
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Daisy Fenton 88, 30 March 2001 South London. Mugged and knocked to the ground for £2.00's worth of groceries. Black Michael Manning got 7 years for killing 4ft 10ins tall, six & half stone Daisy, who needed the aid of a walking stick. He left her with 5 broken ribs, fractures to the nose, cheek, arm and breast bone. She suffered for three days before she died.
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Rosie Ross 16, 12 May 2001 Birmingham city centre. Rosie a policeman's daughter was stabbed to death by a mad Asian Inderjit Kainth.
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Hilda Lockert 86,15 May 2001 Brixton, South London. Mrs Lockert was hurled down the stairs of her block by two black youths, who mugged her for £15 and her bus pass. She had been mugged on her estate six times before.
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Anne Cypher 42, 19 May 2001 Wandsworth, South London. Anne, a mother of three, was working as a manageress of Players Snooker Club. One evening Negro crack addict Robert Alleyne entered the club and savagely bludgeoned her to death with a bar stool, after which he stole the £200 float from the till. She received 19 injuries to her head and body. Amanda Clarke was also fatally wounded (see separate entry). Three days later Alleyne hung himself in his flat. Good riddance.
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Amanda Clarke 32, 26 May 2001 Wandsworth, South London. Amanda was a friend of Anne Cypher and herself a mother of two teenage children. Negro villain Robert Alleyne, 36, also bludgeoned her in the robbery of the Players Snooker Club, where she was found lying in the foyer. She died in hospital of a fractured skull seven days after the attack.
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Ross Parker 17, 23 September 2001 Peterborough, Cambridgeshire. Kicked and stabbed to death by at least eight Asians, by the time his girlfriend had returned with the police young Ross was dead. R.I.P.   FULL STORY
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Kevin Jackson 31, 1 January 2002 Halifax, West Yorkshire. Kevin, a father of two young children, was stabbed outside his home while chasing a gang of Asians who were trying to steal his father-in-law's car. Raees Khan, Rashad Zaman and Rangzaib Akhtar have been arrested and charged with his murder.
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Anthony O'Brien 24, 27 January 2002 Walworth, South London. Stabbed outside the George IV pub by a black 6ft tall mid-20s. Police still hunting attacker.
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Owain Leeson 17, 14 February 2002 Sheffield city centre. A row broke out on a dancefloor which continued in the Uropa nightclub's rear car park. Owain was beaten around the head and face then stabbed with a large knife. He bled to death from his injuries. The group of people involved were described as aged late teens to mid 20s and of Asian or mixed race appearance. The killer is still being sought.
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Gavin Hopley 19,16 February 2002 Oldham. Gavin was not from Oldham but from Rochdale and had been for a night out in Oldham town centre. When he wanted to return home he couldn't get a taxi so walked in the hope of flagging one down. Unknown to him he strayed into the Asian area of Glodwick which is a no-go area for whites. For that mistake he was beaten to death by a gang of 12 Asians.
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Kriss Donald 15, October 2004, Scotland. Kriss was attacked by Muslim Racists, abducted, driven around Scotland, beaten, mutilated, stabbed and burned alive.
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