I have played 60's Stellas, Framus, Guilds, Yamaha, Martin, Gibsons all 12 stringers. I was always searching for the Lead Belly sound. (check out the Lead Belly songbook www.hlmusic.com). For that old 12-string sound, you kinda need an old 12-string, but Marc Silber has made a few that really sound great. http://www.hlmusic.com/harrys.htm If there are any 12-string makers out there who would like to be listed on my web site, feel free to contact me.

I often tune a fourth below standard: B,E,A,D,F#,B but I use very heavy strings. 14's 18's etc. I like this sound and string combination on longer scale length necks. When used on a light weight ladder braced guitar, your bass runs can sound like the word of God, or at least cut though some typical bar noise.

On a standard scale length guitar, lighter sets tuned to pitch or just a little below sound best. It does depend on the construction and the type of sound you are going for. Please check out my sound clips at http://www.hlmusic.com/GBDY.htm