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GUEST,Dave Crutcher (orig. poster) Tune Req: Jolly Pinder of Wakefield (9) RE: Tune Req: Jolly Pinder of Wakefield 15 Nov 05


Thanks for info on this tune. Yes, I agree the dating of Forresters 10B is highly conjectural, but it does seem to me to pre-date the play of 'George a Greene, the Pinner of Wakefield'(c.1592), particularly in the phrasing of stanza 2 which the play appears to self-consciously quote. These lines are also in Child 124, however.

I have recently edited the play of 'George a Green' for an Masters dissertation, any much of the literary scholarship on the play is confused as to sources/derivations. Some previous editors have not appreciated, for instance, that there are not 1 but 2 early prose works on the theme, and that these probably post-date the play.

Can't trace 'Wakefild on a green'; Knight & Ohlgren give music for a tune to 'Pinder' on p.472 of 'Robin Hood & Other Outlaw Tales' - I wonder if this is the same tune?

Any other thoughts/information much appreciated.


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