Without wishing to be seen as partisan in any way, it does rather seem that rioting and certain other unfortunate social traits tend so often to be an immigrant issue. Apologists claim it is born out of poverty, discrimination, poor housing, unemployment etc etc.

Surely something is blindingly obvious here. If immigration is giving rise to poverty, discrimination, poor housing and unemployment, should we not stop doing it like we're doing it at present?

Should we not make sure that anyone coming in to the (whichever) country is able to support themselves? Surely if they come here poor, they will rather tend to live in poverty. And poor housing. If they are in occupations where there are no jobs, surely they will be likely to be unemployed? If they are not basically cabale of integrating, say by knowing some of the language, would it not be likely that they would be discriminated against - particularly by those who percieve them as competition for the few jobs available, or by those whose lifelong neighbourhoods have been "taken over" by immigrants?

Are these not simply statements of the bleeding obvious?

I'm all for offering opportunity but there are lots of people coming into various countries who have no hope of grasping those opportunities - the result? see above.

cheers, Terry