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freightdawg BS: Roe V Wade For Men (89* d) RE: BS: Roe V Wade For Men 13 Mar 06

Okay, now I know who the dumbest person on earth is...guest of 8:43. I know of two situations very closely, and several more on a more general basis where the father was ordered by the courts to pay an exhorbitant amount of money to the woman, who never had to work a day. Worst part of it was, the man then had to go and buy his kids their school clothes, books, etc., because the mother was a drug abusing drunk that smoked, drank and shot up all of her "child support." The whole situation was obscene, but that's the way the courts of today see life...screw the man and who the ***** cares about whether the woman attempts to raise the child properly but because she's the woman she gets the child support. Luckily, over time the worst of these situations was legally remedied but not until years of abuse had taken place and thousands of dollars wasted.

Equality cannot exist legally if there is a fundamental inequality in ethics. If a situation is morally and ethically unequal no amount of legal verbage can make it "equal". I for one applaud any attempt to get the legal system to address the fundamental inequality of this discussion, namely that a woman can dictate to a man that a child will or will not be carried to term regardless of his convictions.

Most of the posts above have been correct: there is joint responsibility in the conception of a child. And I will admit that the woman is responsible for carrying a child to term (until there is a way for a woman to carry 1/2 and a man to carry 1/2 there will never be true equality). But the child that is conceived is not just her child, it is THEIR child. Any law which ignores the rights of the male during pregnancy and then suddenly, only after childbirth, makes the male to be 50% (or in many lawcourts, far in excess of 50%) responsible for the child is quite simply unequal and unjust.

I don't know enough about the lawsuit to say this male Roe v. Wade is the solution. But I do know that the current law gives all of the rights and all of the decisions to the female and that inequality needs to be addressed.


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