This is not a shambles thread and it should not count as one. I started it and I asincerely asked the question.
I am requesting that thisa thread be open for all eternity.
If someone would like a PM to that effect, I will send them one.
The on-going discussions basically boil down to the childish, "it's my ball, so it's my rules" concept.
To watch it constantly discussed and the power brokers stick out their chest is somewhat entertaining I find.
To the same effect, there should be 1 whining thread about anything else at one time.