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GUEST,grose BS: Monsey's (non) Kosher Chicken Crisis (319* d) RE: BS: Monsey's (non) Kosher Chicken Crisis 20 Sep 06

wolfgang: as I had said in my last post, i know G-d to be 100%, as well as the afterlife. I give you the 50-50 to be "fair" to the convoluted views that G-d does not exist. Just because you don't believe in Him doesn't make him not exist, hence as per my outlook there is 100-0. Yet, to have debate, we must keep an open mind, so I put it at 50-50.
I would not be surprised to find non-kosher meat eaters near G-d. In fact, Jews believe non-Jews have a chance at eternal life by being good people and not based on kosher/non-kosher meat eating. However, it is not just about reward and punishment, religion. It is much more weighty than that. I was just discussing afterlife with Bill because he brought it up. And that is just one part of the discussion - the more serious part is this: I bought a camera, a fairly complicated one. I want to use it to the fullest use. I start playing around with it to get it to take pictures. Somehow I get it to do some of what it can do - but never get it to do all that it can do...until one day I realize, guess what the manufacturer who made it knows how to work this dang thing. So I finally pull out the owner's manual and read it. Wouldn't you know, I now know how to optimize using this thing. We understand this with everything in life, even to our scientific minds, we understand that there are rules that maximize and optimize usage of our bodies, our brains, our machinery. How about life itself, Wolfgang, don't you think something so complicated as life comes with a manual on how to get the most of it? That is our vision of what G-d given rules are, the owner's manual to the world.
And yes, that is also open to discussion, which way is right, which fork in the road of religion to take -- and there are multiple ways of ascertaining which way to go. but that is not for the here and now. (just don't wait until the afterhere - figure it out some place in between those two point of time ;))

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