yo art of course i remember u. was at beginning of old town school w/ dawn greening ray tate managed later became ini accompaniest. saw f hamiltons memo on i n . that guy with cigar was ernie altschiller yo frank glad to know youre still around ernie became our a and r man for our columbia albums and at same time was trying to find a hit song for another columbia artist whose career was in the tank he was a and r for this guy too his name tony bennett the hit that revived him i left my heart in san fran .yea was there at village gate .used to go ti basement club think it was staircase cheer up a comedian who had no audience bill cosby. frank was a legend in folk at the time yea a special time with the clancy brothers josh whie bobby gibson bobby camp who became hamilton shell silverstein was onthe scene at gate of horn. was there when lenny bruce was saved from cops when we got tipped they were coming and they dumped his junk needles and all in toilet just in time was at earl of old town ,featured there when along came steve goodman, bonnie kolac but of allfred neal and the dolphins got me. he was special. could go on and on got lots o stories by the way have musical dealin with substance abus e tryin to get iy on boards .its a great piece anyone interested can e mail or send hard copy w/ music   e mail shivaya@sbcglobal.net had no idea i would ramble on