Roger, for the above reason, some music and dance does need burdensome regulation.

Sensible regulation is one thing - I really doubt that anything needs selecting for burdomsome regulation.

But perhaps you can explain how the curent burdomsome regulation of all forms of live music through entertainment licensing can deal with all forms of disruptive noise?

And how when when no distinction is made by LAs between amplified and non-amplified entertainment - any pe-emptive measures can fail to additionaly prevent entertainment that presents no noise concern.

And why if noise regulation does not work on the ground - it is not this regulation that you require to be addressed to enable it to do the job it is designed for?

You cannot encourage live music - as this Act is supposed to be doing - when all music is first seen as presenting a noise problem - whether it does or not.

We already have the situation where whatever the type of music - noise limiters are automatically required to be first installed for all applications. So any pub which does not wish to pay for this or any other demands made to address noise - will not be able to provide any form of live music - even that which does not present any noise concern.

Is that not burdomsome enough regulation for you? It is not what I would call sensible licensing regulation.

Scrump, have you ever tried getting a noisy music or dance pub quietened down? Sooner or later the fact that it's you complaining gets out and then you start getting threats from every local yobbo. Been there, done that.

But the same applies currently - for any restrictions on the grounds of noise are supposed to be introduced only in response to valid concerns. Anyone objecting in advance will need to make themselves known.