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GUEST,Dickey BS: Proof that Bush lied (580* d) RE: BS: Proof that Bush lied 22 Feb 07

Ron, after it has been shown that he has nothing but sayso evidence, is back to square one again with his

"What happened on Sept 11 to cause many in the world to no longer believe that Saddam could be contained?

Did Bush link Saddam to Sept 11 in this sentence? Question.

The answer once again is no, no, a thousand times no.

I think this is a sterling example of repeating the same actions and expecting different results.

Unless Ron can show some specific way that people were convinced by this statement that there was a connection between Saddam and 9/11, his allegation is a non sequitur.

It has been shown that during Ron's specified period, Bush stated the opposite of what Ron claims he said and it has been shown that the number of people who thought Saddam was connected to 9/11 decreased during that time.

Additionally it has been shown that prior to 9/11, even prior to the Bush administration, much of what is blamed on an imaginary Bush propaganda campaign was already public sentiment.

Ron obviously believes he can wear people down with at least six methods that I can identify:

The use of personal attacks to try to discredit the person, thereby discrediting anything they have to say. I have nothing bad to say about Ron except that I think some of his opinions are wrong. He is obviously intelligent but the reaches the wrong conclusions and is unsuccessful in supporting them.

He constantly asks for proof which he immediately claims is not proof, it is wrong and than claims no proof was presented. At the same time he is claiming no proof was presented, he has no proof other than his opinion which he can only support with personal attacks.

During his denials of proof, he makes some sort of a side statement and demands that it be responded to. If the person does not respond he tries to use that as proof that his original allegation is true.

He avoids answering simple yes or no questions by asking another question. The he claims he has answered the question asked of him but his question was not answered.

After he has runs out of material and has gotten nowhere, he wants to start all over again like the man with the stage fright

He stated the the best way to loose an argument is to get mad so he constantly tries to provoke the person who disagrees with him.

I think Ron needs to do better.

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