Don, yes we've met, but didn't really know each other. I, too, played at the Pamir House and most knew me as Doc Knutson. I came in there a little later, '64 or so, and played for several years until my MC'ing duties (replaced Ray Court at KING for the Hootenanys and later working for the Seattle Center as MC of the Seattle Center Folk Concerts & Opera House) got in the way. Had a strong duet going with Anne Billings (that was the best... what a voice she had). I knew Jerry Murray pretty well too. Is he still around... he had everything Van Ronk did down pat and a lot more... Later I partnered with John Hughes in some restaurants in the Seattle area (remember him?). What about Sue Molen (Molin?) Where did she go? Back then, I also played the El Matador (Lake Union), Three Thieves (Everett), a little at the Corroboree as well as Portland and SF. Eventually, career and too much travel got in the way so I drifted away from all of it. Many memories and a lot of really good people and fine music. Sounds like you have stayed very plugged in. By the way, it was John Timmons that owned the Pamir House but no one really saw him. When things were cranking, not only was there music in the front by the stove but also next door (south) and sometimes downstairs too in the passageway to the other side. Atwood still lived on Seaview, across from Ray's Boathouse for a while after he lost his leg with his girlfriend Cele. Still had the '49 Hudson too (still no brakes). It made for an entertaining ride to the Pamir house on the flatest roads possible. Ah... the days...