The bottom line is, folks:

WE WILL STILL BE IN IRAQ THROUGH NOV 2008 AND WE WILL BE IN IRAQ THROUGH 2009 AND 2010.

After that we will be fleeing from rooftops because we'll be out of troops and too chickenshit to start a draft and too chickenshit to serve if they did start one.

And it does not matter who you vote for as far as that goes. But I do know that the dems do not have what it takes to manage or mismanage this war in such a way that the public will not demand their lynching. Pubs can make the same mistakes and be pardoned--understandable errors.

So there's no point to voting dem in 08 if the war is not over and it will definitely NOT be over. No one trusts them to manage this war and they don't trust themselves. They can howl for a change of course until it is put in their laps and then they decide to just keep going the way we're going even though we're losing.

That's why Hillary is all the sudden saying the surge is working. The dems need to keep the war going. They'd rather do that than be called surrender dogs. But if we flee Iraq with a dem president in charge, that's what's going to happen anyway and, before you know it, the pubs will be put back in charge so you may as well vote pub in 08.

The time to vote them out was 04 not 06. The 06 election was too little too late. We missed our window and now nothing really matters. No matter who is in charge, the worst that can happen is going to happen. I'd rather the ones who started it still be in charge to take the public's wrath.