"Don you continue to churn out the unreasoning cliches...this forum should be a meeting of minds...try to be objective for once." I am being objective, Ake. I'm presenting established facts. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean I'm not being objective. And "unreasoning cliches?" I don't think so. A substantial amount of reasoning went into what I've posted, and facts are not "clichés," even if you don't like them. Are you able to point out, specifically, where I'm not being objective? And just which of the things I've posted are "unreasoning clichés?" I'm just curious. Don Firth
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