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GUEST,petr BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush (801* d) RE: BS: WMDs, Iran and Bush 30 Jan 08

only the 'decider' could come up with something inane like the 'axis of evil' - with 2 members of said axis Iran and Iraq as avowed enemies.
never mind the fact that an axis does not have 3 points..
(Actually it was his speechwriter David Frum -but Bush really liked it had him make some additions like the 'axis' bit..)

what a load of rubbish coming out of Teribus..
no attacks from Al Qaeda since 911?
sure, if you dont count Bali, Madrid, the London bombings, Casablanca
Egypt, Turkey, the various attacks on US bases in Saudi..etc etc..

AlQaeda on the Run with no bases to operate from? well they did have them on the run for a while until they hired Afghan warlords to capture Bin Laden and his crew in Tora Bora - instead of using American troops.
The afghans promptly let them go, as did the Pakistanis (the US Ally)
who let them cross unopposed into the tribal areas of Pakistan (where AlQaeda originally formed in 1988). Tribal areas, that were never really under Pakistani authority, and now they do as they please.
and the Taliban has made a comeback in Afghanistan thanks to the US being pre-occupied in Iraq.

the US own intelligence agencies fully admit that AlQaedas recruitment increased and the war in Iraq has become the extremists 'cause celebre' but thats probably too big a word for the decider.

the idea that the Bush administration used diplomacy for a settlement with North Korea, (you mean after not talking to them for 4 years and now that Kim has the bomb he gets to keep it?) that agreement?

and resorting to the argument above that Saddam was an evil dictator who murdered many of his own people and the world is a better place now that hes gone.. Sure Ill grant that point, although I listened to the war drums in 2002-3 mostly the reasons given for going to war were about WMDs nothing about Saddam being a tyrant. (Which by the bye didnt bother the US in the 80s when they sold him weapons and gave him intelligence while he gassed his own people. ) and why arent we going after all the other tyrants? I guess theres no oil in Zimbabwe.

Bush's & Cheneys other legacy - they racked up a debt bigger than all the past administrations, quite an achievement.

and Ironically, (or Iranically) the biggest beneficiary of the IRaq war is Iran - Saddam their arch enemy is gone, they have loads of influence in Kurdistan as well as close ties with the Mahdi army and other Shiite militias, and eventually the occupiers will go home.
(according to a recent survey most Iraqis think the US troops should leave - also a majority feel US troops are legitimate targets)

i think this idea that We own the World pretty much sums it up.

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