To be honest the decision by Orde to bring in the special forces was exploited by both SF and the SDLP but unfortunately others have to pay for politicians mistakes, in this case two soldiers and civvy pizza delivery men.

We have according to the other forums that deal with N.Ireland, people who think if dissidents were killed by the special forces nat/rep would take up arms.

Saying and doing is two different things but there is still enough of the old victim culture about to give enough succor to dissidents to encourage them that they have a mandate.

We for the sake of our children need decisive leadership, many nat/rep hate the dissidents and realise the only response to them will be the bringing back of troops. They know that would not be in any ones interest, although Orde rules out deploying troops, one thing for sure Patten has left us with not enough police to curtail any activities like Sat night.

Again everyone condemns and comes up with no solution especially SF and SDLP this is being recognised by the law abiding nat/rep,which in a funny way is a threat to SF.

When push has come to shove we see that SF is not automatically taking the Catholic vote, the 11+ initiative is showing that not all Catholics toe the republican party line. If it happens there then it will in other areas.

All I worry about is that the loyalists will not hold back for too long if the dissident murderers make a successful bombing and takes lives for some loyalist that will be the excuse to retaliate.

SF now need to get unionists on side and real words of condemnation will help to achieve that, not mealy mouthed statement 16 hrs or more after attacks,which does not fool anyone even their own supporters.

I take comfort from the known rep/nat on other mb's who express their sympathy for the murders and they mean it. We need SF to follow suit.