I think that it is important for all sides of the debate to "stick to the rules" and quit delving into the past to support arguements. We know from experience that, that particular ploy gets us nowhere. It just moves us around in circles of recrimination. It has taken a long hard road to get many of us to where we now stand. It doesn't help to rake up old coals. Please stay on topic in the here and now or I for one will withdraw from this debate and I have a good deal to offer.