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Ireland BS: The Irish Peace Process (294* d) RE: BS: The Irish Peace Process 02 Apr 09

The amount of inaccuracies that Mick has put down here shows his own bigotry.

If instead of listening to secondhand tainted news, you got it first hand that bigotry might not exist.

The holding of weapons by loyalists are not a threat, if you had seen the rally or been there in Belfast when both sides of the divide basically had a love fest to ensure everyone that no loyalist retaliations would occur,you would realise that.

Loyalist do not want to take on any republican group, simply because they would get their heads handed to them from all sides of the communities here,they will not nor do not seem to have the will to fight. They did not get rid off the hardliners for no reason I am talking mad dog,Shoukri etc.

You make mention of LEGALLY CONSTITUTED police force and army, again you show an ignorance of the subject you comment on.

No one wants the army on the streets of N.Ireland, not legally constituted nor private or dissident, people who know what goes on here would know that. Look at he uproar when Orde wanted the special forces brought in according to you those objecting would not have a foot to stand on,LEGALLY CONSTITUTED and all that.

As for loyalist provocation do please mention a few, try to link them to the murders, try to link them to the recent rioting and try to link them to the idiotic hijacking,burnings,and the great act of making an innocent man drive his bus loaded with explosives to a police station.

Once you do all that Mick, explain why the dissidents are causing all the trouble mainly in nat\rep areas of Belfast.

Is it because the LEGALLY CONSTITUTED police force you cite arrested Duffy and others who they charged with the murder of the policeman and the soldiers,some do not want to abide by the law and again they are the people your defending .

BTW that LEGALLY CONSTITUTED Army,RIR,had a home coming parade,at which Duffy was in charge of a section of those involved in a counter demonstration, that is known dissidents and ex IRA worked hand in hand that day joking and laughing with each other not much sign of a split there.

Would such double standards not justify the loyalists,in their eyes, holding onto their weapons. Simply put there was no gulf between the various IRA's on that day, see any hypocrisy here.

Let me point out another, HolyCross, we have quite rightly the condemnation of the Holycross "demonstration" by loyalist's. But little uproar at the leaving of a hijacked vehicle at the gates of the same school.

Mick your defending or making excuse's for the very people who are revisiting the "troubles" on their own community, god help us if these fellows you hold in some esteem try the same with the union\loyalist community.

The truth about us is nothing to do with simplistic English imperialism bs, it is pure hypocrisy and self interest from all sides and the willingness of idiots to be easily lead from the first time anyone stepped foot on Ireland until now.

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