I'm finding this a bit of a strange thread. I agree that there is no place for chauvinism but I'm struggling to understand why an Englishman shouldn't have pride in his country as much as anyone else does. Isn't it natural for people to have pride in their country's beauty;in its culture both high and low; in the achievements of its people both past and present; in its architecture; sporting achievements etc? There is surely a difference between a natural love and pride for your country as opposed to a chauvinistic attitude where one believe's oneself somehow special and better than everyone else?
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