Hi Pip

Indeed - and I could tell you of a couple of dozen or so more, but they DO say what is in the tin.

You have quoted it right there in your post!

My serious point is that the name of the club, and whether it contains the F or T word or not, is no longer an issue in these days of web sites and telephones.

Anyone doing the most casual of research will find out that these two were not died-in-the-wool heritage-type clubs.

For people to insist that these clubs are somehow being dishonest, or engaging in sharp practice, is simply not fair or reasonable.

Out of interest, why do youthinks there's something not right with this?

Tom