http://www.terradaily.com/reports/HIV_Life_Expectancy_Now_Normal_999.html

http://archinte.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/extract/170/1/6

Ake, you told us that you don't believe in equality or fairness and that some people have less rights than others. I respect your honesty, but in every other respect; why can't you just go and bother someone else with your rants?

Keith - delicious. Thank you. Your ignorance and your prejduce just jeeps oozing out with every post.

Overall, HIV+ people will suffer challenges and complications but have a life expectancy - and quality of life expectancy - pretty much the same as someone who is HIV-

It is one of the principal reasons why total numbers living with HIV are rising.

So it betrays two of your principal prejudices - that they're all at it and they've all got it; along with the assumption that they're all dying.

If there are about 2mm gay people and only about 32,000 gay men that are HIV+ then however much it upsets your prejudices, there are only about 1.6% of gay men living with HIV.

You have never felt the need to strip out so many portions of other demographics - like straight people - in order to inflate the results of your fiddling, have you? Why is that?

I have not misled anyone - I have always quoted the 5.6% figure for 15-44 year olds alongside the 1.6% overall estimate. But we had to recover that 5.6% from your lies that put it at 10% or more. OK, so no more lies, Keith."

I have friends that HIV+ and healthy after 20, nearly 30 years. I have one friend who is HIV+, healthy after 18 years and doesn't even yet require drug-treatment - and that is not an isolated event.

The thing is Keith, that your internal narrative on this and so many other subjects is utterly false.

I said to you about 10 days ago that at various points in this dialogue you might have stopped and reconsidered a) your prejudices and b) that you just don't know or understand as much as you like to think that you do.

Are you ready to think yet?