Lou Gottlieb later brought Ernie Sheldon into the Limeliters to replace Glenn Yarbrough, but something must have gone sour there because after Ernie left, the Limeliters dropped his name from their recollections and told the audience that Glenn was replaced by Red Grammer, which wasn't true. Travis, of course, joined Bud Dashiel and the Kinsmen, which later became Bud and Travis.