Annraoi, oh that smarts! Come on, surely we have enough bickering and fighting with all the 'children' around us, without 'US' puberty infantiles starting as well! We ARE the race of Saints and Scholars, are we not? Besides both sides of the Traditional (Ballad) Divide teach us that we have to see BOTH sides to form an opinion,(Jases I can't believe I came off with that)There are some great Orange ballads in our 'Oral Tradition', you have to see them as History (from one perspective) as we see other ballads from another. There is value in most of our Traditional songs, the fact that we should learn from the past and love what we have AND each other. (what are you doing Saturday night?----only kidding!!!!) Maybe I should stop while I'm able to type out an apology, sorry I'm still celebrating my birthday. Anyway, in my humble opinion I think all Mudcatters should be made honourable 'Irish-persons.' YUM YUM. (even you Conrad)