"I'm not insisting on it at all. I'm speaking as I find. Next time you meet an alleged agnostic ask them why they're agnostic. You may get lucky and get a good debate going, but you're far more likely to hear that "it's all a load of rubbish as far as I'm concerned," or "I can't be bothered with all that hocus-pocus and dressing-up" or you might get a remark about priests and child abuse. Largely, you'll hear a lot of veiled excuses for the fact they've stopped going to church. I don't want or not want it this way. It's the way it is. And actually, as I've said several times on this thread, I don't want anyone to call themselves atheists, not even atheists. It's outrageous that we're defined by religion when religion has nothing to do with the way we live. And it's a negative word in any case. My view that so-called atheism is largely misinterpreted to be an absolutist stance - it is anything but - is meant more as an invitation to agnostics to think again. "
Had I have seen that first I would have not bothered replying as I just did. You are as likely to se my replies and answers the same way as what you state here. It does, nonetheless, seem very important to you to want to convert agonstics to atheism. Think again? I think all the time and seldom is there a day goes by I don't ponder something about life. My thinking takes me to all sorts of places... but I still stand by that if I do not know something that I need to have more knowledge of it before I can make an informed choice.
Bye the by: have you ever been Christian or Agnostic yourself? Your agnostophobia seems so deep rooted. In reality I know you are just standing your own ground and that is okay. You be what you wish. But also allow others to do their own thing too. If you cannot provide me the proof I need to change my stance, then anything you say is actually about how you believe what you don't believ. I think my conversion is some way off yet ;-)