I'm getting way too much hostility for no reason here. I haven't flamed or insulted anyone. I've been accused of being "authoritarian" when I have asked several times for questions and counterarguments. I am by no means saying anybody has to believe anything I am saying. I am presenting a reasoned argument which means I have things to prove logically and to demonstrate. It doesn't mean it is unassailable. If you don't want to participate then don't. If you do you are welcome to. If we go around about a point or two and I continue on, it doesn't mean I am dismissing you, it means I want to present the rest of the argument once I answer those issues and that's regardless of whether you buy my answers--you are not obliged to.

I'd like to present the rest of it up to reincarnation but if people are going to get bent out of shape over nothing, I would rather not. I thought we could have a bit of fun and a bit of deep thought that enriches everybody discussing this argument. But if I'm going to get hostility then there is no point to it.

So I respectfully ask, would you like to read the full argument or should we just call it off and cut our losses?