InOBU, Very sorry to hear of the difficulties you've been having with the worldly trends in your meeting. You seem to me the embodiment of the earlier Quakerism that my own ancestors practiced, idealistically embracing pacifism, tolerance and brotherhood. From reading your posts, I fear that this idealism may be slowly disappearing from Quakerism and from the world, and we are all the poorer for it. BTW, what you said twice now about emptying the will to let God in reminds me of the Zen parable where the master cannot give Zen to the student until presented with an empty vessel. Not surprising because I always thought that the old style meetings were more meditative than most forms of Western religion.
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