There is only one source of factual evidence here on the subject of the 2008 ceasefire and that is The Israeli Foreign office report on the ceasefire, as reported by a proven expert in the field.

Those are the facts.

MtheGM is busy stirring his bitter soup and as such remains a waste of time.

And Keith says the following.

"We both know that the cease fire broke down without needing to consult experts anyway."

Mm hmm ... and who broke it?

Well according to the only evidence on here it was not Hamas.


Oh no ... wait ... keith posted some 'expert testimony' ... but it turned out to be irrelevant ... at which point he decides conveniently that we don't need any ...

"When after the ceasefire were Finkelstein's quotes made Lox?"

He has provided this information in many speeches including the one posted and has also published it, every time quoting his source as the Israeli foreign ministry report.

"Finding an "expert" for or against Israel does not further this debate one inch Lox. "

Oh really? But I guess it did when Jack Straw and Lord Ahmed supported your views about Pakistanis eh? ...

... but then of course you were only reporting their "expert" testimony weren't you ... impartially like ...

...Despite their having never been recognized as having any expertise ...

As for 'pro Israel/anti Israel', Finkelstein is a Pro Israeli Jew - who recognizes that current Israeli Government policy is damaging Israels interests in an unprecedented way whilst also engaged in the murder of palestinian civilians including thousands of children.


I am astonished at your double standards and farcical dishonesty.