I haven't been able to keep up with all the traffic here, but I will look at the Latin thread if I can find it. Pluperfect in grammar means the perfect viewed as being in the past, e.g. perfect "Now I have seen" (action completed at present moment) becomes pluperfect "by then I had seen" (action completed at some past moment.) Ablative is the name of a case, but it would take a tedious explanation to explain what that means. Jon Corelis Euripides' Hippolytos: A performance version with music
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