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Lena Proper Music? (47) RE: Proper Music? 07 Nov 00

Dear Shambles.Mmmh.Your BBC has nothing to do with it.Italy is much worse,and we don't have the huge Classic music force-feeding you have in UK.Conservatories are still very old,I doubt jazz is considered music yet from teachers there,classic western uninspiring unmusical training is the only possible training(that training which shuts your ears from the very first beginning because there is no melody or beat in what you play,just notes and ligatures)spontaneity and ear-playing are less important than practising scales.No tunes.Folk is mainly lost in the northern part,I've never heard a session of whatsoever music(spontaneous or folk,unless you want to think about playing Beatles on a guitar in ten making it sound like the record),classic music is not that known anymore from common people(apart from famous operas ,Haydyn and Beethoven)(I loathe the three of them)cause you listen to it if you are a posh intellectual or upperclass xxxxxer.First time I got an italian friend to a folk session here with her fiddle she refused to even try playing along because she hadn't reharsed with the rest of the people(let alone knowing the tune).i was taught music at school since I was three years old,starting with one of those evil recorders,yet I always feel so unabkle with my own music background when i see people who freely plays down here. My God,this all sounds very tragic.I'm very critical about this 'whining opera goer's 'mentality.This people coul'dn't accept the fact that classic music is over-fried,well-disguised folk music,(otherwise why I'd love Mozart so much...?)and the music education coming from this mentality is a draining one,destined to withdraw creativity from people.If you play an instrument,you'll better become a very good professional and if you wish to sing,you'll better be gifted with an incredible voice,otherwise amuse yourself watching television.And music is the best sociable occasion.I really regret that my generation is made of people who'll never be given the possibility of getting together to play and have fun.And also,music without roots is like a tree without roots:you delete your folk heritage from the back of your mind,and nothing will support the music you write(but I said that in some other thread about art music).
But:what if classy,polished BBC transmitted folk music.
HUH,folk music would become such a polished,classy matter.The other day I was talking to a folk singer touring in Australia.She told me that in UK folk is quite a clicque,you have to play ├žlassic folk or it's not folk,while she tents to get very original and bend notes,get jazzy,and in the end she's not considered a 'proper'folk singer.(she's a great folk singer to me).Well,then,it would get as frozen as classic music,with fussy listeners like classic music listeners.
But I'm being cynical.ABC,in Australia,broadcasts lots of folk music and recordings from folk festivals,and it's great.
P.S.:don't ask me where the point is in this long message.

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