Thanks Eliza. I'll look at that site and see what I can learn.. The texture of their vile gumdrops seems right so they probably don't need a firming diet. Since their mamacat outgrew the problem, I think the kittens will too. They're otherwise perfectly sensible little beasts..and now I'm wondering if maybe a different type of litter would help (wondering if the clumping kind is maybe sticking on their low-slung deposits and adding to the problem) I've remembered what I did for the mamacat when she was wearing icky accessories back there..dumb that I didn't think of it days ago! Thanks, M
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